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cyclists turned right when i overtook

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  • NBLondon
    NBLondon Posts: 5,698 Forumite
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    Maybe kraken's cyclist nemesis has moved up to powered transport....
    I need to think of something new here...
  • wapow
    wapow Posts: 939 Forumite
    Why did everyone turn on the OP? I didn't read it all but I can guess what happened...


    No one took into account the OP, in his first post, specifically said "the cyclist was wearing a headcam, can I request the video legally" (said to something of that effect)


    If the driver was at fault, they would be worried about this headcam.


    Therefore I trust the OP in that they made a calculated decision and it didn't turn out the way it should. I am also leaning towards the cyclist being at fault. (Did the OP made a post saying it was all his fault)


    Therefore, the OP was correct that there are idiots on this thread, the typical MSE "Thanks" gang that high five each other with every comment.


    Go away. We don't need 33 pages of your drivel. I'd like to hear from the OP as to how this all went ahead.
  • wapow wrote: »
    Why did everyone turn on the OP? I didn't read it all but I can guess what happened...


    No one took into account the OP, in his first post, specifically said "the cyclist was wearing a headcam, can I request the video legally" (said to something of that effect)


    If the driver was at fault, they would be worried about this headcam.


    Therefore I trust the OP in that they made a calculated decision and it didn't turn out the way it should. I am also leaning towards the cyclist being at fault. (Did the OP made a post saying it was all his fault)


    Therefore, the OP was correct that there are idiots on this thread, the typical MSE "Thanks" gang that high five each other with every comment.


    Go away. We don't need 33 pages of your drivel. I'd like to hear from the OP as to how this all went ahead.


    The OP has said several times it never happened and it's a hypothetical scenario.
  • wapow
    wapow Posts: 939 Forumite
    The OP has said several times it never happened and it's a hypothetical scenario.

    What an anti-climax!
    (Name of OP's s-tape ;) )
  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    wapow wrote: »
    Why did everyone turn on the OP? I didn't read it all but I can guess what happened...


    No one took into account the OP, in his first post, specifically said "the cyclist was wearing a headcam, can I request the video legally" (said to something of that effect)


    If the driver was at fault, they would be worried about this headcam.


    Therefore I trust the OP in that they made a calculated decision and it didn't turn out the way it should. I am also leaning towards the cyclist being at fault. (Did the OP made a post saying it was all his fault)


    Therefore, the OP was correct that there are idiots on this thread, the typical MSE "Thanks" gang that high five each other with every comment.


    Go away. We don't need 33 pages of your drivel. I'd like to hear from the OP as to how this all went ahead.

    If you can't be arsed to read the whole thread, you have no place making judgements about those who post in it. Grow up. I hope you never end up being called for Jury service. You'd need an attention span of longer than 10 minutes.
  • Hoochypooch
    Hoochypooch Posts: 1,174 Forumite
    kraken776 wrote: »
    I recently had an accident with a cyclist

    I attempted to overtake him and as I was doing so he turned right and collided with my left headlight. This was a very sudden movement, he literally turned sharply to the right just as I was alongside his rear.

    - This happened in a residential area in a 30 limit with a wide clear road.
    - I did not exceed the speed limit to overtake.
    - The road was clear for a very long distance in front and nothing was coming the other way.
    - I moved all the way over into the opposite lane for the overtake.
    - The cyclist did not signal.
    - The cyclist did not do anything else to hint that he was about to turn (did not look behind, did not look to the right or where he intended to turn to, did not start to move further to the right ect)
    - There was no junction or turning on the left (or anywhere else nearby for that matter).
    - There was no cycle lane on ether side of the road at or before the point of the accident but there is a cycle lane on the pavement on the other side of the road which starts about 40 meters from where i started my overtake. There is a fence on the pavement at the start of the cycle lane so it was not visible from my position.

    My insurance company tell me that his story is that he was turning right into the cycle lane and that I should have predicted that he would do this. I think this is absurd and unfair.
    However i am worried about it because i have heard stories or people being held responsible in this sort of situation if there is a junction on the right.

    Can anyone advise me if I am likely to be held at fault for this.

    Also,
    The cyclist had a helmet cam, This will not show anything that i did because he did not look back. Could it be used to prove what happened and can be be forced to submit the footage?


    " he was turning right into the cycle lane and that I should have predicted that he would do this"

    That seems to indicate that he turned right with out signaling which puts you in the clear.
    You can't make allowance for suicidal cyclists really,.
  • Hoochypooch
    Hoochypooch Posts: 1,174 Forumite
    And so the whole thing revolves around a cyclist who moves to right, without checking it is save to do so, because motorists should have anticipated he was an idiot?

    Maybe if he had "IDIOT" or "TW*T" printed in large letters on his back that might that might OK but otherwise the OP has no case to answer.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    And so the whole thing revolves around a cyclist who moves to right, without checking it is save to do so


    I don't think it's that simple, because cyclists have the right to use any part of the lane they are in, they don't have to hug the left and they don't have to indicate to move within their lane (and I don't mean cycle lane)....
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  • Richard53
    Richard53 Posts: 3,173 Forumite
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    " he was turning right into the cycle lane and that I should have predicted that he would do this"

    That seems to indicate that he turned right with out signaling which puts you in the clear.
    You can't make allowance for suicidal cyclists really,.
    The OP has said several times that the incident never happened, so any further comment is really unnecessary.
    If someone is nice to you but rude to the waiter, they are not a nice person.
  • tho_2
    tho_2 Posts: 326 Forumite
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    Richard53 wrote: »
    The OP has said several times that the incident never happened, so any further comment is really unnecessary.

    He also says several times that it did. Check the very first line in the opening post.

    "I recently had an accident with a cyclist"
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