Sold Cat D car by dealer

prowla

I think it is highly unlikely that a dealer would not have known that the car was a Cat D.

However, as pointed out, the Cat D would likely have just meant the cost of replacement parts was high, rather than the car was damaged.

I had a car (also a BMW, coincidentally) which was vandalised in a case of mistaken identity (the target was apparently someone else who had a similar one!) and the windows were smashed and every panel was dented. Both me and the man with a truck who collected it thought it was going to be written off, but it was repaired and the main outcome was that I got new glass in my windows. That could easily have been a Cat D.

Davidtomdavid

lee678 wrote: »

who has actually done the hpi check ? the potential new owner ? have you carried out a hpi check yourself ? [ not a ten bob text hpi check, a proper one ] maybe the potential buyer is pulling a fast one ?

I have done one myself through RAC

bobbymotors

Nowadays the dealer is compelled by law to disclose any cat c or d matter before you buy the car.
However I don't think this applied in 2008.
So although the dealer should have informed the op he was not compelled to.
So it's a waste of time as the law is not retrospective. I so not defending the dealer in any way, he knew, they always o (I always knew, and always declared it) but that's how it is, it's dead in the water sorry

motorguy

prowla wrote: »

Actually I was offered acceptance of a Cat C car against a used BMW from a dealer last year.

I chose not to go with them though.

The BMW dealer themselves wont touch it though - they'll have had it underwritten by the motor trade so will just pass it on.

motorguy

bobbymotors wrote: »

Nowadays the dealer is compelled by law to disclose any cat c or d matter before you buy the car.
However I don't think this applied in 2008.
So although the dealer should have informed the op he was not compelled to.
So it's a waste of time as the law is not retrospective. I so not defending the dealer in any way, he knew, they always o (I always knew, and always declared it) but that's how it is, it's dead in the water sorry

Thats what i was thinking too - what was the law status in 2008?

If its as you say then the O/P is definitely stuffed.

Marvel1

foxy-stoat wrote: »

On a 2 year old car at a dealers that was probably around £25000-£30,000 ?

Thinking when would you HPI it, before buying it, the day of purchase, a week afterwards or in this case 8 years later?

Yes I would, used is used, also there are car accidents daily and paying for a HPI is pocket change compared to buying a car. Plus being 2 years old, HPI check to check finance status is clear, definitely.

When I was looking for a car on autotrader, I emailed questions e.g. service history, did a mot history check, once satisfied, a final check of the HPI. I would have done the same at dealership too if I just randomly saw it before online.

Johno100

I wonder how many owners the nearly new vehicle had prior to the OP buying it? It might be worth the OP doing a bit of detective work to get to the bottom of this. Perhaps starting with previous keeper on the V5, but easier said than done 8 years later.

motorguy

Johno100 wrote: »

It might be worth the OP doing a bit of detective work to get to the bottom of this. Perhaps starting with previous keeper on the V5, but easier said than done 8 years later.

Why?

If its Cat D, its Cat D.

Talking to the previous owner - whos probably the guy who did the work to get it back on the road / was aware of it - isnt going to change that.

And if he was unscrupulous enough to trade it in and say nothing, hes not going to give a rats !!! about the O/P

Johno100

motorguy wrote: »

Why?

If its Cat D, its Cat D.

Talking to the previous owner - whos probably the guy who did the work to get it back on the road / was aware of it - isnt going to change that.

And if he was unscrupulous enough to trade it in and say nothing, hes not going to give a rats !!! about the O/P

Or he might tell the OP, "yes the garage knew all about it, I got a very low price for it and I'll send you a copy of the paperwork to prove it".

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

jimjames

davemorton wrote: »

It is irrelevant what damage caused the car to be a Cat D, it has devalued the car, and the dealer should have disclosed this.

Was that the case back in 2008 though? Wasn't it a more recent change that required disclosure?