Pregnant Dog ?

Trollydolly_2

krispy444 wrote: »

How can you tell whether your dog is pregnant or not ? She was mated 2 weeks ago and since then she has not been herself. She sleeps a lot more and is extremely quiet but wants fussing. I am getting a bit worried as she is just not herself.

Was it an accidental mating?

krispy444

Sorry for the delay in replying but have been busy. No it was not an accidental mating. She was mated with my mothers dog, they are both cocker spaniels. The 61st day is today but so far nothing. We will have to just keep waiting to see what happens.

Trollydolly_2

krispy444 wrote: »

No it was not an accidental mating.

There is money saving and then there is thoughtless money making. Would it not be best to know these things before attempting to breed?. Breeding dogs can be a very dangerous game for your dog even if you know what you are doing, let alone when you dont even know how to tell if they are pregnant!

Are there not enough dogs in this country that are up for rescue without bringing more into the world?. Obviously there is a need to breed from certain dogs, i dont dispute that. Guide dogs for the blind are a prime example but if you dont even know what your doing then I doubt you are breeding these dogs as working dogs, so im guessing it has only been done for money.

I apologise if ive jumped to a conclusion that is untrue.

suki1964

Trollydolly wrote: »

There is money saving and then there is thoughtless money making. Would it not be best to know these things before attempting to breed?. Breeding dogs can be a very dangerous game for your dog even if you know what you are doing, let alone when you dont even know how to tell if they are pregnant!

Are there not enough dogs in this country that are up for rescue without bringing more into the world?. Obviously there is a need to breed from certain dogs, i dont dispute that. Guide dogs for the blind are a prime example but if you dont even know what your doing then I doubt you are breeding these dogs as working dogs, so im guessing it has only been done for money.

I apologise if ive jumped to a conclusion that is untrue.

I was thinking the exact same thing and just working out a reply here myself.

I take it that you dont have the help and support of a seasoned reputable breeder? And seeing as you havent given much thought as to how you are going to get through the delivery Im also guessing you havent thought much about what you are going to do if things go wrong as they so often do. Mum could die leaving you a litter of pups to hand rear, or she may not be able to feed them. Pups may die. And if you do have a successfull litter have you homes lined up for them? Are you prepared to have any pup returned to you in the event the new owner cant cope? Have you had both parents hip and eye scored? Have the family trees been researched to ensure theres nothing hereditory being passed down along the lines?

Im sorry but my thoughts are the same as trollydollys, you have gone into this as a money making scheme with no thought to the welfare of the dogs or possible pups. As someone who has owned a badly bred cocker in the past, who died very young of congential heart disease, all i can say is you really dont know what heartache you could be unleashing on someone

krispy444

Just for information it turns out that my dog is not pregnant, it could be a thyroid problem she has which would account for the weight increase and sleeping, but we have to go back to the vets and check.

Can I also thank TrollyDolly and Suki 1964 for the conclusion that you both jumped to. For your information I did have help/support from a seasoned breeder I was just showing nerves in my posting. I was prepared to look after puppies if the worst happened to my dog. I had homes lined up for at least 3 puppies. As far as not knowing if she was pregnant or not even the vet thought she could feel something, and I presume she has had many years training in that issue.

Well once again thanks for your help.......

Trollydolly_2

krispy444 wrote: »

Just for information it turns out that my dog is not pregnant, it could be a thyroid problem she has which would account for the weight increase and sleeping, but we have to go back to the vets and check.

Can I also thank TrollyDolly and Suki 1964 for the conclusion that you both jumped to. For your information I did have help/support from a seasoned breeder I was just showing nerves in my posting. I was prepared to look after puppies if the worst happened to my dog. I had homes lined up for at least 3 puppies. As far as not knowing if she was pregnant or not even the vet thought she could feel something, and I presume she has had many years training in that issue.

Well once again thanks for your help.......

The only conclusion I jumped to was that you have deliberatly mated dogs with no knowledge yourself and obviously to gain money from the puppies. That is unless you are giving the puppies away for free? Like I said, and I quote
"Are there not enough dogs in this country that are up for rescue without bringing more into the world?. Obviously there is a need to breed from certain dogs, i dont dispute that. Guide dogs for the blind are a prime example but if you dont even know what your doing then I doubt you are breeding these dogs as working dogs, so im guessing it has only been done for money."

I stand by what I said.

suki1964

krispy444 wrote: »

Just for information it turns out that my dog is not pregnant, it could be a thyroid problem she has which would account for the weight increase and sleeping, but we have to go back to the vets and check.

Can I also thank TrollyDolly and Suki 1964 for the conclusion that you both jumped to. For your information I did have help/support from a seasoned breeder I was just showing nerves in my posting. I was prepared to look after puppies if the worst happened to my dog. I had homes lined up for at least 3 puppies. As far as not knowing if she was pregnant or not even the vet thought she could feel something, and I presume she has had many years training in that issue.

Well once again thanks for your help.......

Erm, lets see, why did I think you were doing this just for financial gain? Well for a start you made no mention of a seasoned reputable breeder in the back ground when you asked for advice on here and tbh if you had one of those guiding you through the process it would have been him/her you asked, not joe public.

I applaud you for finding homes for "at least 3 pups", cocker's are known to have 5/6 pups so would that have been a possible 3 unwanted pups? Or were you thinking of keeping all the pups?

And why oh why did you want to even think about bringing a litter of cockers into the world? Do you both have show cocker's which are doing well and making names for themselves and you are perhaps looking to improve on lines? Or do you both have good working cocker's and perhaps have people interested in buying from good working stock?

Or perhaps you just thought, mmm, two nice cocker's, one entire male, one female, 5 - 600 quid a pup - lets go for it???

Sorry i too stand by what I said. Im now caring for a pup that was sold to an entirely inappropriate home. A springer spaniel pup sold to a young mum with two under 4's in the family who soon found that pups and babies dont go together and pup was banished to the garden shed A pup that is from a solid line of FTCH which should have only been sold to someone who intended to work it. I now have a pup who has severe social problems, scared of children and people looming over him,scared of loud voices and every day objects such as brooms and washing machines and because of the habit he developed of amusing himself playing with stones - and eating them because he wasnt fed regularly - hes now recovering from major surgery after getting stones blocking his intestine. Major money for me - major set backs for this wee fella.

And yes, this pup has a pedigree as long as your arm and Im sure the person who bred him was looking for a good working pup for himself - but he just sold on the rest to whoever would pay - didnt give a thought about what sort of homes they would go to

Back yard breeders are as bad as puppy farmers in my eye. dont know what they are doing and dont give a dam what they are unleashing

MrsTinks

I have to say I am afraid I agree too...
My initial thoughts here were "why on earth have you got her mated!" - I know a lot of very good breeders and they and I agree to disagree on a lot of points - like breeding mainly. I see the rescue side of things, where the unwanted pups are dumped, or worse when they are no longer cute they get replaced at christmas by something younger and cuter (I also noted that these pups would in fact have been ready for christmas - a particular pet hate of mine...).
Unless you really know your pedigree and your dogs family as well as the stud dogs family tree or either dog has won some serious shows then I would recommend not breeding. It's frankly irresponsible.
If a reputable breeder is helping you with breeding these dogs then I assume they have already explained the lines of the dogs to you and walked you through checking for no occurances of the MANY hereditary diseases that plague CS's?
However... as far as the health of your dog goes then there is no replacing proper vetenary care. If you are serious about breeding your dog then do it for the love of the breed and forget about making money. 9 out of 10 good reputable breeders do NOT make a profit on breeding whenthey add everything up. Ok you might make a profit on one litter, but next could easily go wrong and land you with a HUGE vet bill, no pups and a sterile b itch. Add into that the costs of going to shows, keeping your dog in show condition and stud fees unless you own a very very good stud dog yourself and any major profit soon gets swallowed up. If you don't want to risk a lot of money then breeding, whether for profit or not, should be avoided in my view. And ofcourse unspeyed b itches are also more likely to get certain cancers later on...

If she does have diabetes or something else that is making her gain weight then I sincerely wish you the best of luck and hope she gets back on an even keel soon
Having spent nearly £1000 on vet bills for my own dog recently (2 seperate conditions) and nearly loosing her to an unknown bug then I knwo it can be very upsetting when your pets are ill and I hope she is bouncing about in no time!
T

Kimberley

My foster dog, i'm still not sure, she is getting bigger underneath but it could also be a phantom. The dogs having a scan next Monday so I'll know for sure then. Hopefully it is a phantom. I've been trying to feel around but she keeps moving so i can't tell.

Phoenixx73

On a somewhat related post. PET INSURANCE. From what i have read recently, there are few (or none) insurance companies that will insure for pregnant animals.

Does anyone know if a seperate policy can be bought so that all eventualities are covered?