Fixed Speed Camera - Speeding and mobile phone use?

victor2

Iceweasel wrote: »

I have nothing to say then - except I agree with cjdavies.

Ditto.
Imagine the sympathy dtm247's "friend" would get if she ran over a child outside a school she was speeding past while using her mobile.

Paradigm

victor2 wrote: »

Ditto.
Imagine the sympathy dtm247's "friend" would get if she ran over a child outside a school she was speeding past while using her mobile.

You forgot nuns, kittens, puppies etc

Car_54

Even if the photo is admissible as the sole evidence, is it clear enough to prove that what she was holding was a mobile phone?

If it was, it is not illegal to hold a mobile phone. There is no evidence that she was using it.

I'm not saying that a conviction is impossible, but it's likely to be too difficult to bother.

Iceweasel

I am always thinking of the nuns and kittens - puppies I'll leave for someone else>

Iceweasel

Car_54 wrote: »

Even if the photo is admissible as the sole evidence, is it clear enough to prove that what she was holding was a mobile phone?

If it was, it is not illegal to hold a mobile phone. There is no evidence that she was using it.

I'm not saying that a conviction is impossible, but it's likely to be too difficult to bother.

I imagine that accessing phone records would solve that problem.

victor2

Car_54 wrote: »

Even if the photo is admissible as the sole evidence, is it clear enough to prove that what she was holding was a mobile phone?

If it was, it is not illegal to hold a mobile phone. There is no evidence that she was using it.

I'm not saying that a conviction is impossible, but it's likely to be too difficult to bother.

So there you go OP. Your friend will probably only get done for one offence, even though she was committing two at the time.
She can also sleep comfortably in the knowledge that she didn't hurt any kitten brandishing nuns...

Silver-Surfer_2

Iceweasel wrote: »

I imagine that accessing phone records would solve that problem.

The friend best not give them the number then.

Silver-Surfer_2

cjdavies wrote: »

First time caught speeding I would help, but 6 points, speed awareness course - not learnt lesson and top it off with using the mobile phone not paying attention, screw the support and help, had enough chances, licence lost is next step.

You don't lose your licence for nine points though.

Car_54

Iceweasel wrote: »

I imagine that accessing phone records would solve that problem.

Only if they knew the phone number.

Car_54

victor2 wrote: »

So there you go OP. Your friend will probably only get done for one offence, even though she was committing two at the time.

Three, if you count careless or dangerous driving ....