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Relationship breakdown, get out of my house!

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Non molestation orders/harrassment orders aren't easy to get. I couldn't get one even when my ex was knocking at the door each night trying to get me to open it.., me and the children were upstairs scared to death. Police wouldn't even go for a harrassment order (although we were definitely harrassed and scared) because he wasn't f'ing a blinding at the door or making threats. Horrible situation to be in. Bit of an eye opener. We were on our own.

    Sorry but you're wrong, they're incredibly easy to get. You were unlucky with the police, probably worth a complaint

    But non- mol is as simple as handing over a witness statement and a cheque, s45 family act served ex parte.

    Now she has legal aid. It's very easily abused
  • Ms_Chocaholic
    Ms_Chocaholic Posts: 12,787 Forumite
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    You mentioned grandparents looking after your son one day per week; is there any chance she could move in with them.
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  • duchy
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    She isn't a single parent as she still lives with her partner with the child. She can't claim yet- well she could but they aren't financially seperate so she's unlikely to get it.

    Why can't she stay with her parents ? (are these the grandparents who currently mind the child?)

    In this situation I'd protect my own asset and sanity and offer her the first's month rent if she can get the council to pay the bond for her deposit. (Which is quite likely she'd get)

    If your ex girlfriend is now a single, working parent she can claim tax credits if she works more than 16 hours a week - has she done this?
    I recall tax credits being quite generous to a single parent and so should provide enough of an income that she can save a deposit quite quickly. If you can match the savings that would ensure a quicker exit.
    You should put a time limit on her stay as it may be too comfortable to stay there.
    The likelihood is high that she will have to leave and sit at the council offices until they provide emergency accommodation. You may not want your child to have to go through that but without a child I doubt she will be be able to obtain assistance. Emergency housing should give her some time to sort out private rental or she may be lucky and get social housing but hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
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  • pigpen
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    Non molestation orders/harrassment orders aren't easy to get. I couldn't get one even when my ex was knocking at the door each night trying to get me to open it.., me and the children were upstairs scared to death. Police wouldn't even go for a harrassment order (although we were definitely harrassed and scared) because he wasn't f'ing a blinding at the door or making threats. Horrible situation to be in. Bit of an eye opener. We were on our own.


    I have been refused one and he threatened to smash my skull in with a hammer, break my back and legs..
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    Non molestation orders/harrassment orders aren't easy to get. I couldn't get one even when my ex was knocking at the door each night trying to get me to open it.., me and the children were upstairs scared to death. Police wouldn't even go for a harrassment order (although we were definitely harrassed and scared) because he wasn't f'ing a blinding at the door or making threats. Horrible situation to be in. Bit of an eye opener. We were on our own.

    It wasn't just the police. The Women's Aid solicitor told me I couldn't get even a harrassment order unless he was making threats. Like I said, we were scared to death every night because of past history but there was nothing we could do.
  • Tigsteroonie
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    Drastic suggestion - sell the house ;) You move back with parents for a week or two, and then move into a new house. She'll have to move out so that there is vacant possession of the house; how and where she moves is not your concern, she is genuinely homeless, just remember to keep paying the child support.

    She won't move out until you make her life hell. She's onto a cushy number - bed and board paid for. As you're no longer in a relationship, could you perhaps draw up a lodging agreement, giving her and her son the formal status of a lodger?
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  • cte1111
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    duchy wrote: »
    She isn't a single parent as she still lives with her partner with the child. She can't claim yet- well she could but they aren't financially seperate so she's unlikely to get it.

    That's incorrect. Even if you are still living in the same house, if you have split up, then your ex can claim tax credits as a single parent. I was advised to do this by the Jobcentre, when I had split up with my ex. He had not moved out. I told the tax credits people this too and they processed my claim as a single person.
  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    cte1111 wrote: »
    That's incorrect. Even if you are still living in the same house, if you have split up, then your ex can claim tax credits as a single parent. I was advised to do this by the Jobcentre, when I had split up with my ex. He had not moved out. I told the tax credits people this too and they processed my claim as a single person.

    If you read the posts you'll see they live under the same roof and are NOT financially seperated the way finances are currently divided (sometimes it helps to read an entire post not just the first line)
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  • justme111
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    I wonder how it is done - would he have to call police asking them to assist with her removal assuming she is not going to go voluntarily ? Will they help ? Re child - who registers one as legal guardian of a child and can he be registered as such if he wants to but she does not ? If he gets both of them out he is going to be a bad guy but if he offers to keep the child it will be her decision put the child through homelessness so he does not have that stigma .
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    It wasn't just the police. The Women's Aid solicitor told me I couldn't get even a harrassment order unless he was making threats. Like I said, we were scared to death every night because of past history but there was nothing we could do.

    That's incorrect, however you could never get a harassment order, that's a criminal matter - unless of course you have 20-30,000 for a private prosecution.

    A Non Mol is a civil claim, you would've got one.
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