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  • Marvel1
    Marvel1 Posts: 7,440 Forumite
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    Tenant took on property without a gate and must have been happy with it enough to rent it.
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,628 Forumite
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    If the landlord has no legal obligation to fit a gate then presumably he does not have to accede to the tenant's request.

    However, it is not an unreasonable request - why not fit the gate? It could make the property more appealing to future tenants?
  • nkkingston
    nkkingston Posts: 488 Forumite
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    It's another tea and cake one. Your friends should call the landlord, invite them round if possible, and explain why they're asking for a gate now. If the landlord says no, it was let as seen, the tenant then asks if the landlord would mind them installing a gate, with the proviso that at the end of the tenancy the tenant restores the garden to the state it was let in*.

    *that is, takes the gate away when the leave, unless the landlord wants to pay them for it. Not point bettering the landlord's property if they're not willing to do it themselves.
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  • harrys_dad
    harrys_dad Posts: 1,997 Forumite
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    nkkingston wrote: »
    It's another tea and cake one. Your friends should call the landlord, invite them round if possible, and explain why they're asking for a gate now. If the landlord says no, it was let as seen, the tenant then asks if the landlord would mind them installing a gate, with the proviso that at the end of the tenancy the tenant restores the garden to the state it was let in*.

    *that is, takes the gate away when the leave, unless the landlord wants to pay them for it. Not point bettering the landlord's property if they're not willing to do it themselves.

    My friend is the landlord :)
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    harrys_dad wrote: »
    My friend is the landlord :)

    In which case it's a case of:


    Do I value my tenant enough to spend £100 on a gate and keep good relations


    over


    Do I want to have good relations when the tenant moves out so I can actually do viewings in advance and not have a void
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    However a LL is responsible to some degree for the security of the property. So that could be one point to make. (just like a window or a door)

    It's not for security - as in protection from burglars.
    It's for security - as in stopping the toddler running into the road.
    Big difference.
    The real point is though - this tenant could be a tenant for a long time. There may be times when the LL needs some good will from the tenant.


    Why not spend £50-100 now, improve the property and get some goodwill?
    xylophone wrote: »
    If the landlord has no legal obligation to fit a gate then presumably he does not have to accede to the tenant's request.

    However, it is not an unreasonable request - why not fit the gate? It could make the property more appealing to future tenants?

    Agreed 100%. Fitting a gate is not going to be a big or expensive job.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    It's not for security - as in protection from burglars.
    It's for security - as in stopping the toddler running into the road.
    Big difference.




    Agreed 100%. Fitting a gate is not going to be a big or expensive job.

    True and I admit it was a stretch, it could help with actual security, but as we agree the point is more of a practical benefit, rather than legal obligation.
  • harrys_dad
    harrys_dad Posts: 1,997 Forumite
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    I have advised my friend that the consensus is that there is no legal requirement to fit a gate but that it is something that they might consider if they have a good, long term tenant.

    Thanks everyone.
  • Dan-Dan
    Dan-Dan Posts: 5,279 Forumite
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    harrys_dad wrote: »
    I have advised my friend that the consensus is that there is no legal requirement to fit a gate but that it is something that they might consider if they have a good, long term tenant.

    Thanks everyone.

    It`s a shame that as a Landlord he does not already know that
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  • VX5087
    VX5087 Posts: 9 Forumite
    Dan-Dan wrote: »
    It`s a shame that as a Landlord he does not already know that
    That is something that every tenant and home owner should know. It's not something peculiar to renting out a house.

    This is something the tenant should have known if they were concerned about their rights, responsibilities and entitlements
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