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harrys_dad
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Hi, a question for a friend. When a pregnant tenant started their tenancy the garden of the property was not "secure", in that there was no gate. The tenant's child is now 2. The tenant now wants a gate. Is it the landlord's responsibility to secure the garden and put up a gate?
Thanks in advance.
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I doubt it because the property was let as seen and it's still in that condition. If it's no longer suitable the tenant needs to move. Otherwise the argument could go that she now needs stair gates on the stairs and the landlord should fit those; or an extra bedroom also and the landlord should modify the property to provide that. And so on.
When I've rented with children I've informed the landlord that I'm fitting a stair gate and will make good when I leave. As a landlord I'd be wary of putting one in for a tenant as there might thereby be some sort of implied guarantee or warranty that it's safe.0 -
Nothing i know of in law saying the Landlord must secure a garden, however as a Landlord myself i would get a gate installed in this instance simply to control the look and quality of installation. It will also likely help keep good relations with the tenant which is a welcome bonus in my book.When using the housing forum please use the sticky threads for valuable information.0
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westernpromise wrote: »I doubt it because the property was let as seen and it's still in that condition. If it's no longer suitable the tenant needs to move. Otherwise the argument could go that she now needs stair gates on the stairs and the landlord should fit those; or an extra bedroom also and the landlord should modify the property to provide that. And so on.
When I've rented with children I've informed the landlord that I'm fitting a stair gate and will make good when I leave. As a landlord I'd be wary of putting one in for a tenant as there might thereby be some sort of implied guarantee or warranty that it's safe.
Actually it's not so simple IMO.
No-ones asking for a stair gate, that's a safety feature and temporary. (You don't need to inform the LL of such fittings, but you do need to make good any damage.)
However a LL is responsible to some degree for the security of the property. So that could be one point to make. (just like a window or a door)
The real point is though - this tenant could be a tenant for a long time. There may be times when the LL needs some good will from the tenant.
Why not spend £50-100 now, improve the property and get some goodwill?0 -
harrys_dad wrote: »The tenant now wants a gate. Is it the landlord's responsibility to secure the garden and put up a gate?
Some might suggest it's the parent's responsibility to supervise their own children...0 -
ReadingTim wrote: »Some might suggest it's the parent's responsibility to supervise their own children...
Others might suggest it's society's responsibility to safeguard our youngsters.
Whilst others might say....0 -
I was just making a point that saying they're your kids you deal with it is not always applicable.
No, you were virtue signalling with the plaintive cry of the handwringing liberal "won't someone please think of the children...".
Society does indeed have a duty to protect the weak and vulnerable. From exploitation and the likes, not from the overwhelming urge to do an impression of a lemming. That's what parents are for.0 -
ReadingTim wrote: »No, you were virtue signalling with the plaintive cry of the handwringing liberal "won't someone please think of the children...".
Society does indeed have a duty to protect the weak and vulnerable. From exploitation and the likes, not from the overwhelming urge to do an impression of a lemming. That's what parents are for.
So you wouldn't help a lost child? - tough, you have crap parents who didn't keep an eye on you?0 -
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