Not wanting a dog

Feral_Moon

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I have, and if even if I hadn't, it seems pretty self explanetory to me.

I don't however agree with crating dogs whatsoever.

Edit: Apart from at times of injury or illness.

When dogs are crate trained properly they see it as their refuge/hidey hole and a place of comfort and safety. Crating a dog is never intended as punishment or barrier. I think maybe you need to educate yourself on the use of crates.

They're not only used in times of illness/injury. In fact dogs who need to be crated due to illness/injury become extremely stressed if it's an unfamiliar environment. Same as vet crates.

elsien

Gitdog has a crate.
For when I go out because I don't want to come back to no house and a seriously ill dog with a blockage from eating whatever he's destroyed.
For when workmen etc come to the house as there's nowhere to put him out of the way.
For when he's just being an @rsehole and it's either crate him or kill him.
It's not a punishment, he likes his crate and it's now more often open than not. But if I didn't have the crate I'd probably have no longer have Gitdog, for any number of reasons that aren't related to illness or injury. (Unless it's the injury I'm threatening him with.) They have their place and are only cruel if used incorrectly.

Feral_Moon

Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »

Perhaps you cannot appreciate that it would be unkind to have a few large Huskies inside with the heating on in the middle of winter. I have had dogs, not Huskies but long coated German Shepherds that if they were indoors stood whining at the door to be let out! They do not crave artificial heat the same was as we do or little cosseted dogs might.

Plus if you are out as in at work or shopping and not actually with your dog I can assure you that he does not care too much about his surroundings so long as he can have shelter from wind/rain/sun. That he would prefer to be with you is a given but if you are absent it does not matter to the dog if you have left him in a well furnished sitting room, in a crate or in a basket in the kitchen, or in a kennel and run in the garden.

It is not animal cruelty if people do not pamper their dogs.

Oh at last, somebody with some common sense to know that many dog breeds simply cannot be kept as handbag accessories and toys to dress up :rotfl:

I suspect some of the people posting here own chihuahuas and pugs and other equally repugnant excuses for a dog


ETA: prove me wrong and post a pic of your dog(s)

Mrs_pbradley936

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Surely, in both cases, that depends on whether they're locked in or can come and go as they please?

I suppose so - but some breeds have to be confined or else they are off hunting/exploring.

For instance if you have a typical German Shepherd or a Rottweiler you seldom need a fenced garden because they rarely go far from the back door. They just want to be near home. If you let them off the lead they will stay with you, if you sit down they will stop beside you.

If you had a Weimaraner or a Beagle and just let them out in an unfenced garden they could take off after a scent and be gone for hours. They might also get run over or cause an accident. If you let a typical Weimaraner off the lead it will bolt for a couple of hundred yards before coming back to you unless you have spent weeks training it not to. An Afghan Hound might never come back to you!

Person_one

Feral_Moon wrote: »

I suspect some of the people posting here own chihuahuas and pugs and other equally repugnant excuses for a dog

Well that tells me all I need to know about you.

Feral_Moon

Person_one wrote: »

Crating has its place, lots of dogs like a 'den' type space and they're very useful if dogs are injured and need 'bed rest' to heal.

They shouldn't be used for the owner's convenience, or for hours and hours on end with a locked door though.

No, of course they shouldn't. But I don't see any evidence either from this thread or other conversations I've had with this poster concerning his dogs that he actually does this. So why are you attacking him in such an aggressive and unsubstantiated manner?

missbiggles1

Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »

I suppose so - but some breeds have to be confined or else they are off hunting/exploring.

For instance if you have a typical German Shepherd or a Rottweiler you seldom need a fenced garden because they rarely go far from the back door. They just want to be near home. If you let them off the lead they will stay with you, if you sit down they will stop beside you.

If you had a Weimaraner or a Beagle and just let them out in an unfenced garden they could take off after a scent and be gone for hours. They might also get run over or cause an accident. If you let a typical Weimaraner off the lead it will bolt for a couple of hundred yards before coming back to you unless you have spent weeks training it not to. An Afghan Hound might never come back to you!

I wouldn't let any dog out in an unfenced garden, regardless of the breed.

Georgiegirl256

Feral_Moon wrote: »

When dogs are crate trained properly they see it as their refuge/hidey hole and a place of comfort and safety. Crating a dog is never intended as punishment or barrier. I think maybe you need to educate yourself on the use of crates.
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Maybe I already have, and that is my opinion, just as you and everyone else have yours.

Peter333

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I have, and if even if I hadn't, it seems pretty self explanetory to me.

I don't however agree with crating dogs whatsoever.

Edit: Apart from at times of injury or illness.

Huskyrunner wrote: »

:mad:

Our huskies are raced october too april we train them 4-5 times a week on a mountain bike or rig during this time. We race 1-2 times a month during this date range. I suggest the people commenting re crating go on you tube and just type in the words husky damage, then husky moulting.

I have too be honest here guys my dogs welfare is not in question here but it bloody seems in it is, i am not the one giving up a dog here remember, i am just the one who rescues huskies from people like the op. 2 of my dogs are rescues that were in a right state before coming too us, if posters that no it all want i will post before and after pics of a 12 kg male husky we have who was 3 when we got him he is now 22kg and healthy.

I will upload pics in a moment of my dogs then you can judge there welfare lol

your all showing your ignorance

We are merely going on what you have told us. You said they are kept in crates, and then decided to say they are kept in a 50 foot run, and then decided to say that they go for lots of runs. And then you said they are rescue dogs. You are just drip feeding information when someone challenges you; so you can hardly be shocked when people appear to be 'ignorant.' If you just keep adding bits when it suits, then what do you expect?

Huskyrunner wrote: »

view my profile picture

my profile name is kind of a give away lol we from september too april race them all over the uk.

No way can anyone see what is in your profile picture.

As for your comments about 'at least you're not giving a dog up.' (Like the OP.) I don't find that as bad as keeping 5 huge dogs in 3 cages half their life! :eek:

We once went out too asda and our huskies escaped there crates and came home too carnage our 3000 sofa was shredded, magazines books were eaten, my sons teddy bears, carpet you name it ripped too bits.

Are you really so surprised that they got out?! Come on! And as for the damage they did, why on EARTH would you keep these kind of dogs in a domestic property?! Words fail me!

Feral_Moon wrote: »

When dogs are crate trained properly they see it as their refuge/hidey hole and a place of comfort and safety. Crating a dog is never intended as punishment or barrier. I think maybe you need to educate yourself on the use of crates.

They're not only used in times of illness/injury. In fact dogs who need to be crated due to illness/injury become extremely stressed if it's an unfamiliar environment. Same as vet crates.

:rotfl:

And when anyone is challenging this practice, they get accused of being ignorant and not having any knowledge! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the dogs are not happy holed up in crates, if they BROKE OUT!!!

Feral_Moon wrote: »

No, of course they shouldn't. But I don't see any evidence either from this thread or other conversations I've had with this poster concerning his dogs that he actually does this. So why are you attacking him in such an aggressive and unsubstantiated manner?

Why are you so bothered about what people are saying to Husky Runner?

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Anyway, I am out of this conversation as people get irrationall if you dare to suggest that their dogs area different species. Have a good day.

I'm off to stroke my cats.

Person_one wrote: »

I really hope you aren't still taking money off people to care for their dogs.

I agree. I wonder if SDW has the same attitude towards cats as she does dogs?

Feral_Moon

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Now that sound like an ideal relationship.

It is

You honestly can't beat a GSD for true loyalty and companionship. He's my lover (not in the biblical sense before anyone comments :rotfl: urgghh the thought is gross) and defender - woe betide anyone who tries to harm me - and my best friend all rolled into one :A