Not wanting a dog

Person_one

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Anyway, I am out of this conversation as people get irrationall if you dare to suggest that their dogs area different species. Have a good day.

I'm off to stroke my cats.

I really hope you aren't still taking money off people to care for their dogs.

Mrs_pbradley936

Person_one wrote: »

Well, that's just a bigger cage.

Sorry, I'm sure you enjoy your hobby, but your dogs don't sound like loved family members to me.

When I first got my current rescue dogs I came home to destroyed furniture too. I didn't just confine them to protect my stuff, I worked really hard to help them become calm, happy animals who were relaxed and not destructive when left alone. It didn't even take very long.

If I didn't feel I was up to the job of training them to live in my home with me, or that I couldn't cope with the moulting, I wouldn't have got 5 huskies. Well, I didn't! Its not compulsory after all...

Perhaps you cannot appreciate that it would be unkind to have a few large Huskies inside with the heating on in the middle of winter. I have had dogs, not Huskies but long coated German Shepherds that if they were indoors stood whining at the door to be let out! They do not crave artificial heat the same was as we do or little cosseted dogs might.

Plus if you are out as in at work or shopping and not actually with your dog I can assure you that he does not care too much about his surroundings so long as he can have shelter from wind/rain/sun. That he would prefer to be with you is a given but if you are absent it does not matter to the dog if you have left him in a well furnished sitting room, in a crate or in a basket in the kitchen, or in a kennel and run in the garden.

It is not animal cruelty if people do not pamper their dogs.

Person_one

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I have, and if even if I hadn't, it seems pretty self explanetory to me.

I don't however agree with crating dogs whatsoever.

Crating has its place, lots of dogs like a 'den' type space and they're very useful if dogs are injured and need 'bed rest' to heal.

They shouldn't be used for the owner's convenience, or for hours and hours on end with a locked door though.

Georgiegirl256

Person_one wrote: »

Crating has its place, lots of dogs like a 'den' type space and they're very useful if dogs are injured and need 'bed rest' to heal.

They shouldn't be used for the owner's convenience, or for hours and hours on end with a locked door though.

Agreed. I should edit my post to say that I mean in general and not at times of injury or illness.

Mrs_pbradley936

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Agreed. I should edit my post to say that I mean in general and not at times of injury or illness.

It all depends upon whether the dog sees it as a place of punishment or as his own space. Somewhere that he can go to eat his chew in peace.

It is not much different to a child's bedroom, some will associate that as a place they are sent to when they have been naughty. For others it is a place where they can have privacy, or read when everyone else is watching the TV.

missbiggles1

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I have, and if even if I hadn't, it seems pretty self explanetory to me.

I don't however agree with crating dogs whatsoever.

Edit: Apart from at times of injury or illness.

It might seem obvious that he has huskies but I still don't understand what sort of work his actually do.

Feral_Moon

theoretica wrote: »

If experts - from the zoo/animal psychologists/wherever - tried to devise the very best environment for a dog what would it look like? At one extreme you have wild packs of dogs, outdoors, no human involvement. Contrasted to this you have a human home with only human companionship and scheduled walks out. I knew one dog which had a dog flap - she chose to be out a lot of the time, though far from all of it. If we assume there is an ideal how far from it should you be before saying that no, the dog is better left in a rescue - where it might need to stay for ages?

Dogs have been domesticated over a long enough timescale that they are different to their wild ancestors, but we haven't had modern houses for most of that time. How we treat animals seems to be a matter of custom as well as differences to benefit the different animals. Some people keep pigs or horses in the house - but most don't.

Exactly! My dog (GSD) is far happier when he's outdoors but, being the breed he is, he'd rather be wherever I am, whether that's indoors, outdoors, stuck up a mountainside or chilling out on the beach.

Fortunately for him, I also prefer being outdoors so that's where we spend much of our time. But, he also enjoys snuggling up on the sofa or sleeping on my bed. He's my companion and guardian as well as being a working dog in training.

missbiggles1

Feral_Moon wrote: »

Exactly! My dog (GSD) is far happier when he's outdoors but, being the breed he is, he'd rather be wherever I am, whether that's indoors, outdoors, stuck up a mountainside or chilling out on the beach.

Fortunately for him, I also prefer being outdoors so that's where we spend much of our time. But, he also enjoys snuggling up on the sofa or sleeping on my bed. He's my companion and guardian as well as being a working dog in training.

Now that sound like an ideal relationship.

missbiggles1

Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »

It all depends upon whether the dog sees it as a place of punishment or as his own space. Somewhere that he can go to eat his chew in peace.

It is not much different to a child's bedroom, some will associate that as a place they are sent to when they have been naughty. For others it is a place where they can have privacy, or read when everyone else is watching the TV.

Surely, in both cases, that depends on whether they're locked in or can come and go as they please?

Feral_Moon

Person_one wrote: »

Well, that's just a bigger cage.

Sorry, I'm sure you enjoy your hobby, but your dogs don't sound like loved family members to me.

When I first got my current rescue dogs I came home to destroyed furniture too. I didn't just confine them to protect my stuff, I worked really hard to help them become calm, happy animals who were relaxed and not destructive when left alone. It didn't even take very long.

If I didn't feel I was up to the job of training them to live in my home with me, or that I couldn't cope with the moulting, I wouldn't have got 5 huskies. Well, I didn't! Its not compulsory after all...

Oh give over, do! What breed(s) do you own or have experience of? Obviously not any of working dogs. You think you're an expert in everything but you're not. Certainly not where dogs are concerned, other the ones you own. I'd love to hear your history of dog ownership before you go criticising others.