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EU Specific Negatives
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Nothing specifically affecting me, I just don't believe that having a melting pot of different economies trying to act as a single unit works. It doesn't work here on a national scale, on a European scale its obvious it doesn't work either. All the inhabitants are drawn to the prosperous areas, and away from the poorer areas, meaning the poorer areas will get weaker, and the richer areas over populated
In about 100 years, everyone will live in the UK and Germany, and the rest of Europe will be a waste land, probably starting with Greece
We are already starting to feel the strain, Public services arent coping, we dont have enough places for people to live. maybe not to the extent the media claim, but we cant keep up. It might be OK for us now, but future inhabitants of these areas are going to suffer. Its OK to say 'build more, invest more' but we dont, and the easier answer would be to balance the EU better, but thats not going to happen either0 -
Cheers enterprise.
Does that mean that you can't think of anything specific?
I can't put what I think without being PPRd for a while. I would be accused of racism for starters.
I will say however that I do not like being part of an organisation that frequently compromise their ideals. They moved the goalposts so Greece could join the Euro (and where did that get them!!), they are now speeding up the entry of Turkey, one of the more undemocratic countries in the bloc, and with them and their porous borders come Syria, Iran, Iraq, Aremeni and Georgia.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »I can't put what I think without being PPRd for a while. I would be accused of racism for starters.
What about the sort of thing a normal person might write?
I've definitely had costs imposed by red tape. If you don't like immigration that's nothing to get PPRd for depending on phrasing of course.0 -
Nothing specifically affecting me, I just don't believe that having a melting pot of different economies trying to act as a single unit works. It doesn't work here on a national scale, on a European scale its obvious it doesn't work either. All the inhabitants are drawn to the prosperous areas, and away from the poorer areas, meaning the poorer areas will get weaker, and the richer areas over populated
In about 100 years, everyone will live in the UK and Germany, and the rest of Europe will be a waste land, probably starting with Greece
We are already starting to feel the strain, Public services arent coping, we dont have enough places for people to live. maybe not to the extent the media claim, but we cant keep up. It might be OK for us now, but future inhabitants of these areas are going to suffer. Its OK to say 'build more, invest more' but we dont, and the easier answer would be to balance the EU better, but thats not going to happen either
I think your last statements are incongruous with your first. You say nothing specific is affecting you but then you say that our services are taking strain. So that must be a specific thing affecting you?
I appreciate the response of course but the content of your post belongs to a more general thread about the EU where we can moan about things in theory. This is a thread to attempt to see if the theory is born out in reality. As another poster put it recently, bad news stands out more to people than good, and hence I stopped the other day to try and think, what of this bad news is actually a reality for me.0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »I can't put what I think without being PPRd for a while. I would be accused of racism for starters.
I will say however that I do not like being part of an organisation that frequently compromise their ideals. They moved the goalposts so Greece could join the Euro (and where did that get them!!), they are now speeding up the entry of Turkey, one of the more undemocratic countries in the bloc, and with them and their porous borders come Syria, Iran, Iraq, Aremeni and Georgia.
These are not specific things affecting you in current life. There are threads for discussing potential impact or theories of future impacts or non democracy, etc. This thread is for showing how those theories translate into reality in your daily life.0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »and are told off for flying The George Cross.
Seems reasonable, that could be quite dangerous0 -
What about the sort of thing a normal person might write?
I've definitely had costs imposed by red tape. If you don't like immigration that's nothing to get PPRd for depending on phrasing of course.
OK, for starters we have a small business and we had to jump through hoops amany to export to a specific country (outside the EU), 90% of which were EU hoops, and it lost us the contract.
We have a lot of Polish around here. When they first arrived they were OK and spoke English. Now there are a lot more around, they have their own enclaves and do not wish to speak English, and are getting ruder. They are taking business off a lot of our business associates.
The schools here are oversubscribed because the EU citizens are coming here, finding they do not have to pay for kids they have so keep having them and expecting us to pay for them and school them.
At our doctor's we have to wait for a fortnight for an appointment, again massive amount of Europeans on the list.
We had Romanian gypsies around here, they went around pinching drain covers, one disappeared from round by our garages, a neighbour drove into it because the hole was not visible and, well, you expect the drain cover to still be there.
And, call me racist if you want, but I simply do not want the Turks and their bordering countrymates over here, especially considering what is going on in that area at the moment.
It is my belief that the refugee crisis has been encouraged by the turks so they can engineer a deal with the EU, they get money out of the EU and claim they are doing what they can but they do nothing about the people smugglers because they do not care and they are earning them a route into the EU. I also believe that 90% of those immigrants are not refugees, they are mainly economic migrants. The vast majority are healthy young men, the news reporters struggle to find women and children to show.
If the refugee crisis had been dealt with swiftly and properly this problem would not exist, instead the beurocratic beast that is the EU spent most of their time hand wringing and having meetings.
If I carry on I will be here all day.
Oh, and one last thing, we are not allowed to vet EU citizens coming in here and therefore end up with a massive amount of their citizens in our jails.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
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Enterprise_1701C wrote: »OK, my bad, Cross of St Goerge
:rotfl::rotfl:
Does that have anything to do with the EU rather than "Political Correctness gone mad"/Tabloid myth?0 -
Does that have anything to do with the EU rather than "Political Correctness gone mad"/Tabloid myth?
That one I don't know. All I do know is that they seem to be trying to eliminate all traces of pride in the country, whether it be England, UK, France etc. I think this is partly our government and partly the EU, I believe it started with Blair, he wanted to rub the middle classes's noses in it by allowing unlimited immigration and he believed they would vote labour permanently keeping them in power.
If I ever get to speak to him in person I will be asking why he decided to wreck the country he was supposed to be working for.
You are supposed to put produced in the EU rather than in the UK, that sort of thing. At the moment we get away with putting made in the UK on at least one of our products, if they see that it will almost certainly have to be changed.
I want to be British, I do not want to be European.
I personally think the whole world will become one unit eventually, but that it will move together naturally over hundreds of years, I think a forced union only goes to damage the countries that are part of it, even Germans are getting anti-EU these days. We have friends in Germany and they are telling us that after our referendum, whichever way it goes, they will be demanding theirs even louder than they are now.
So that is a massive negative for me, it is frowned upon to be proud to be English or British.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0
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