Clocking in machine fast

Undervalued

stator wrote: »

Either way, the OP wasn't looking for smart-alec comments like "Turn up for work early" which clearly contributes nothing except to make yourselves feel clever at the OPs expense. Telling someone to turn up early for work is the most useless comment I can think of, you might as well not bother posting it. If you can't help the OP you should probably avoid ruining their thread with your smart-alec comments.

I agree.

However sadly those comments are more useful than some of the nonsense you have posted in this thread.

sangie595

The OP has already say that they can make up the time. So those points are irrelevan. And I, and the OP I presume, are still waiting for this law that says the employer can't do this.

And it is not a smart alec remark to say that the OP should arrive early for clicking on. It is the only sensible option unless they wish to be permanently late. Perhaps the OP can come back and tell us how many times they have actually been late clocking in?

stator

There's no law that says an employer can't deduct from your wages because you're wearing a blue tie, but if it isn't in your employment contract that you can't wear a blue tie then they can't deduct.

Saying arrive early is like say why don't you just not fall down the stairs. Complete worthless twaddle.

sangie595

stator wrote: »

There's no law that says an employer can't deduct from your wages because you're wearing a blue tie, but if it isn't in your employment contract that you can't wear a blue tie then they can't deduct.

Saying arrive early is like say why don't you just not fall down the stairs. Complete worthless twaddle.

That is such a helpful contribution. You clearly have no idea about employment law - there are a lot of deductions that can be made without them being stated in your contract, and one of those is for clocking in late. Which can be made up for by clocking out later. This is not rocket science, but you keep on insisting that the OP doesn't have to adhere to the employers timekeeping system because the clock is two minutes fast.

So again - can you please tell us what this law is that enables the OP ignore the clocking in clocks time or which enables them to take action? I am sure the OP will be wanting to quote it, so it really isn't fair of you to not tell us all what it is.

stator

There doesn't need to be a specific law. There would have to be one to allow employers to make non-contractual deductions.
If the start time is 9am, it will be in the contract. The law would assume GMT/BST unless stated otherwise.
You show me proof that employers can make incorrect deductions from your pay.

sangie595

stator wrote: »

There doesn't need to be a specific law. There would have to be one to allow employers to make non-contractual deductions.
If the start time is 9am, it will be in the contract. The law would assume GMT/BST unless stated otherwise.
You show me proof that employers can make incorrect deductions from your pay.

The law assumes nothing. It is fairly clear cut, if you are not in work, then you are not entitled to be paid for time you are not in work, unless there is a reasonable cause such as sickness, leave or another agreed reason. If you are late to work it isn't an incorrect deduction - it is a correct deduction, unless you make up that time. It's a fairly standard implied contractual term - we pay you to work and you aren't working so we don't pay you.

But this is going around in circles. If you are correct then the OP should apply to an employment tribunal for a judgement that these are unlawful deductions. If they aren't doing that, then there is nothing they can do. End of discussion.

stator

sangie595 wrote: »

The law assumes nothing. It is fairly clear cut, if you are not in work, then you are not entitled to be paid for time you are not in work, unless there is a reasonable cause such as sickness, leave or another agreed reason. If you are late to work it isn't an incorrect deduction - it is a correct deduction, unless you make up that time. It's a fairly standard implied contractual term - we pay you to work and you aren't working so we don't pay you.

But this is going around in circles. If you are correct then the OP should apply to an employment tribunal for a judgement that these are unlawful deductions. If they aren't doing that, then there is nothing they can do. End of discussion.

We're not talking about when the employee is late for work. We are talking about when the employee is NOT LATE FOR WORK