Cameron Tax Dodger

mwpt

Moby wrote: »

I dont care what he 'claims'. I don't believe that he has fully declared his overseas interests. He has disclosed as much as he has to to meet the demands of the situation he is in and no more! It's not good enough! Read what I said above re. his motives!

You are frothing at the mouth because you despise the Tories so much, it has addled your brain and you are struggling to make a coherent argument.

Try not to hate so much, it's bad for you, and other people.

Tromking

Moby wrote: »

Why are you defending him so much? He is a crook! I agree there are a lot of stupid people out there. They are like sheep and can't see they are being shafted everyday by him and his ilk!

Perhaps Gen would feel different if he/she hadn't chosen to leave austerity hit Britain and live somewhere else. The UK for some people is not a happy place to reside at the moment.

westernpromise

Labour voters horrified by Tory PMs actions. Shock horror.

mwpt

Tromking wrote: »

Perhaps Gen would feel different if he/she hadn't chosen to leave austerity hit Britain and live somewhere else. The UK for some people is not a happy place to reside at the moment.

How many people? I have never really encountered much in the way of benefits culture but recently two houses in my neighbourhood (by that, I mean on my immediate street) have been let to the council by the residents who have gone overseas or something. Some families have moved in, rent paid by the council. I looked at the average council rent, in my district and it is just about £1500 pm. So some people get to live rent free at a cost of £1500 to the tax payer in a high cost location. What austerity?!!

If you want something to blame, blame our unfunded pensions and welfare state. Austerity is not a choice, it is voluntarily taken, or it is enforced on you by the market. You cannot escape that.

Generali

Tromking wrote: »

Perhaps Gen would feel different if he/she hadn't chosen to leave austerity hit Britain and live somewhere else. The UK for some people is not a happy place to reside at the moment.

Perhaps I would but it's not possible to say. What I can say is that my friends in the UK seem very happy with life in general although a little sad that I'm not around to share a beer and some cheer on a Friday night.

Perhaps they put on a good show for me but they have food on the table and a bottle of beer or wine in the fridge. The water seems to be drinkable and the healthcare is 'free' (LOL). My niece seems to be getting a passable education even if she doesn't know what the Rum Rebellion was.

It's he BTW.

It's worth noting that Australians seem to get by very well despite spending per head being considerably lower than in the UK. We volunteer and we get stuff done for ourselves. We don't wait for some unionised idiot to turn up to paint our school because if we did it wouldn't happen.

Tromking

mwpt wrote: »

How many people? I have never really encountered much in the way of benefits culture but recently two houses in my neighbourhood (by that, I mean on my immediate street) have been let to the council by the residents who have gone overseas or something. Some families have moved in, rent paid by the council. I looked at the average council rent, in my district and it is just about £1500 pm. So some people get to live rent free at a cost of £1500 to the tax payer in a high cost location. What austerity?!!

If you want something to blame, blame our unfunded pensions and welfare state. Austerity is not a choice, it is voluntarily taken, or it is enforced on you by the market. You cannot escape that.

The way you apply austerity and who you specifically apply it to is a political choice. The reason the Cameron family tax dodge (or not) became a 'thing' was because Cameron and Osborne propagated the myth that we were all in it together and as we have seen lately even fellow Tories (IDS) have disagreed with that myth.
If it makes you feel any better my NI and pension contributions have risen as has my retirement age and I`ve had one 1% consolidated wage rise in 7 years. I realise the pay and conditions of public servants is an easy win for a Tory Chancellor, but trust me, its all coming on top for these jokers.

Tromking

Generali wrote: »

Perhaps I would but it's not possible to say. What I can say is that my friends in the UK seem very happy with life in general although a little sad that I'm not around to share a beer and some cheer on a Friday night.

Perhaps they put on a good show for me but they have food on the table and a bottle of beer or wine in the fridge. The water seems to be drinkable and the healthcare is 'free' (LOL). My niece seems to be getting a passable education even if she doesn't know what the Rum Rebellion was.

It's he BTW.

It's worth noting that Australians seem to get by very well despite spending per head being considerably lower than in the UK. We volunteer and we get stuff done for ourselves. We don't wait for some unionised idiot to turn up to paint our school because if we did it wouldn't happen.

So in short, your view of 2016 UK is anecdotal. Fair enough.

Generali

Tromking wrote: »

So in short, your view of 2016 UK is anecdotal. Fair enough.

I pay pretty close attention to the data.

Do you?

mwpt

Tromking wrote: »

The way you apply austerity and who you specifically apply it to is a political choice. The reason the Cameron family tax dodge (or not) became a 'thing' was because Cameron and Osborne propagated the myth that we were all in it together and as we have seen lately even fellow Tories (IDS) have disagreed with that myth.
If it makes you feel any better my NI and pension contributions have risen as has my retirement age and I`ve had one 1% consolidated wage rise in 7 years. I realise the pay and conditions of public servants is an easy win for a Tory Chancellor, but trust me, its all coming on top for these jokers.

Look, I don't agree with a lot of things the Tories do. I only happen to agree with their choice of economic policy in a few respects.

When you say it is a political choice, you clearly mean that you believe our welfare bill is either at exactly the right levels or must go up and we should never ever under any circumstances reduce it? Ever.

Seems mad to me.

antrobus

princeofpounds wrote: »

Anyone else getting rather bored by the media approach to this issue?....

Not really. Largely because I haven't paid much attention.

The only vaguely interesting things to have emerged so far are that;

1. Jeremy Corbyn got fined £100 for failing to submit his tax return on time, and

2. Jeremy Corbyn failed to include his state pension on his tax return, and therefore provided HMRC with "false information" which is an offence.

Which I think is hilarious.