Unusual stair layout - would this pass regs?

leveller2911

You need to get a (decent) carpenter or Joiner to come round and make a hole in the apron lining (If you have one) and see if it is packed off the adjacent trimming floor joist and if it is then you can gain a few inches on the headroom.If the bulkhead wall is plastered with stud-work above it then you can still investigate the position of the trimming Joist.

As I said previously with all the best intentions of posters on here none of us can give you any advice other than get a Joinery in to help you and someone to investigate the bulkhead issue.

I make staircase (amongst other things) so I do know a little bit about the subject but feel free to ignore my post if you wish. Its similar to you posting a photo of a ball of string and us all guessing how long it is.

Currently you are just going round in circles.

easilydistracted

I've been going through the designing the stairs issue as we are getting a loft conversion done. There are so many issues to understand to get it right. We finally felt confident when we sourced a recommended local architect and told him what we wanted, with the plans of course costing money.

This is only the second time I have owned a house but to be blunt even I can tell all your design ideas are a bit crazy. None of the designs are practical if you can envision actually living in the house or moving furniture around. You could waste a lot of money repeatedly applying to building control and I imagine planning permission. This is the exact reason people study for 7 years to be an architect, it's not easy.

Doozergirl is extremely sensible and helpful in giving advice, including when I was very naïve first time buyer. I'd suggest you appreciate the advice everyone is giving, even if its not what you want to hear.

ijrwe

leveller2911 wrote: »

You need to get a (decent) carpenter or Joiner to come round and make a hole in the apron lining (If you have one) and see if it is packed off the adjacent trimming floor joist and if it is then you can gain a few inches on the headroom.If the bulkhead wall is plastered with stud-work above it then you can still investigate the position of the trimming Joist.

As I said previously with all the best intentions of posters on here none of us can give you any advice other than get a Joinery in to help you and someone to investigate the bulkhead issue.

It should be doable - I've been inside the ceiling/walls/floor in question and they're of a construction that could "easily" be knocked around a bit. By my measurements to gain the required two more steps I'd need a bulkhead box of no more than around 400x400mm in the room above, small enough but in an area where it has some consequences.

I'd also need to add a porch to move the front door and walls away from the base of the stairs, then, mind you.


What region are you in?

chappers

why so convoluted, just remove the wall at the top of the existing stairs put in a straight flight to a small landing with the two rooms to the left off of it and a small circulation area to the right with the two rooms off of that.
Don't even consider the option with the winders turning in opposite directions and as someone else said your first option doesn't comply with regs.
Though the layout in post #14 works quite well

ijrwe

Existing, just to remind us:

chappers wrote: »

why so convoluted, just remove the wall at the top of the existing stairs put in a straight flight to a small landing with the two rooms to the left off of it and a small circulation area to the right with the two rooms off of that.

Like this:



That would do the trick, yes. Similar to this:



but meaning that slightly less (200mm) of that existing bedroom gets eaten up, meaning the door will fit and an overall better use of the space

the layout in post #14 works quite well

This one ^

I guess there's not a lot in it - I save space in the existing bedroom but lose it in the new one. Given the choice I suppose it's slightly easier to avoid knocking the existing wall out, I'll have to think carefully about the room areas and their value.

leveller2911

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