Cameron spending £9 Million on Brexit Propaganda.

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

Cameron also said he would recommend leave in certain circumstances : nobody, not even himself believes his deal has any substance and his promise to reduce immigration to 10s of thousand is still operative (no ifs no buts) but can't be achieved by the 'deal'.


anyway, a matter of little substance, as he behaves exactly as we expect politicians to behave but that doesn't stop one supporting a better way.

I do give credit to the fact we are having a referendum unlike the false promise of Blair.

Can you provide a link to Mr Cameron stating this or are you using you psychic powers?

TBH, I don't think any deal would have satisfied you. Mr Cameron could have come back with the moon on a stick and you would be complaining that the stick was the wrong colour.

tommix

Mistermeaner wrote: »

What's 9mil anyway?

Four Homeless shelters perhaps..Food on the tables of the people these ba$t-ards are starving out of existence?

Got to be better than spending it on some leaflet full of gobbledigook about the EU which nobody gives a toss about anyway..

Generali

tommix wrote: »

Four Homeless shelters perhaps..Food on the tables of the people these ba$t-ards are starving out of existence?

Got to be better than spending it on some leaflet full of gobbledigook about the EU which nobody gives a toss about anyway..

Yes, that's right. Starve the poor or enslave them so I can get rich. That's what I vote Tory for.

Graham_Devon

Generali wrote: »

Here's the agreement:

http://www.politico.eu/article/full-text-of-deal-changing-britain-eu-membership-brexit-referendum/

The UK, and any other EU state, will be able to cut off all welfare to all EU migrants under EU law. The impact of UK's laws on this is not the problem or interest of the EU.

That in no way answers the question as to whether the sliding scale detail has been agreed yet. So I have no idea why you quoted my post.

Graham_Devon

Regarding the leaflet - I'm not entirely sure it's worth sending it out now anyway. It's been talked about nearly everywhere. In every paper, on every channel on every news broadcast. it's all over social media.

So what's the point in sending it out? It will reach those who haven't seen it or heard about it, sure. But if you haven't seen or heard about it already you are unlikely to be interested enough to go out and take part in any vote. Seems like a complete and utter waste of money now. Anyone who wants to read it will likely have done so already.

Generali

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Regarding the leaflet - I'm not entirely sure it's worth sending it out now anyway. It's been talked about nearly everywhere. In every paper, on every channel on every news broadcast. it's all over social media.

So what's the point in sending it out? It will reach those who haven't seen it or heard about it, sure. But if you haven't seen or heard about it already you are unlikely to be interested enough to go out and take part in any vote. Seems like a complete and utter waste of money now. Anyone who wants to read it will likely have done so already.

I suspect that it's already been printed and the delivery contracted.

HornetSaver

CLAPTON wrote: »

is that sophistry or sarcasm?

I'm perfectly serious. At the moment Cameron is in the absurd position of stating that he will be the champion of the people of Britain after the vote whatever the outcome, that Britain will be strong regardless of the outcome, that he is determined to accomodate those who support Brexit and for instance allow them to remain in cabinet whilst openly opposing him on Europe, yet crystal clear that one outcome is good for Britain and the other is a disaster.

You either put the full force of the Government - and your own political career - behind what you see as the only acceptable outcome, or you stay neutral if both outcomes are acceptable.

michaels

mayonnaise wrote: »

No they don't. (unless this article is hopelessly out of date)

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-02-22/number-of-conservative-mps-backing-brexit-reaches-115/

Thanks, I thought I heard a TV pundit had said something along the lines of Cameron was going against the majority of Tory MPs but I see you can't always believe what you are told.

Generali wrote: »

Can you provide a link to Mr Cameron stating this or are you using you psychic powers?

Pretty sure at one point during the 'negotiations' he said he would not accept 'just any deal' and indeed stating that there were 'red lines'.

masterwilde

Its garbage, it fails to include important information thats actuallly relevant to the country, and paints only one side of things. Example, businesses can and do trade through the EU and if we leave face additional costs. They cannot define the real costs. They decline to publish the facts regarding trade, and how our country cannot create trade agreements with other countries without submitting it to a vote of the EU.

This very fact is the reason i vote OUT, when our own chancellor visits a country like China to discuss trade deals and yet he has no formal power to even create an agreement to trade without cowering to europe first....its a joke

masterwilde

regarding the £9million, he broke the rules. each party is only allowed to spend upto £7million