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Cameron spending £9 Million on Brexit Propaganda.

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  • BobQ
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    So wymondham I assume it was a lie from the Brexit supporters ? ......
    BobQ wrote: »
    I hesitate to accuse you of spinning, but would you please point out where on the document it states that it was printed in Germany? I see no such reference.
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  • prowla
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    3 out of 5 is hardly a huge bias...
  • BobQ
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    prowla wrote: »
    3 out of 5 is hardly a huge bias...

    There are people who are genuinely uncertain.

    You might have a point if the previous programme was not equally biased.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • mayonnaise
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    BobQ wrote: »
    There are people who are genuinely uncertain.

    You might have a point if the previous programme was not equally biased.

    Yeah I noticed that too. Once more 3 outers (Douglas Carswell, Ruth Lea, Irvine Welsh) and 2 inners (Anna Soubry and Chris Bryant)
    If it was the other way round, the Murdoch tabloids would be all over the 'BBC bias' :(
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • kabayiri
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    BobQ wrote: »
    So wymondham I assume it was a lie from the Brexit supporters ? ......

    I spoke to my local MP's office on the phone. They didn't deny it was printed in Germany. Why don't you phone and ask yours?
  • Mistermeaner
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    I spoke to my local MP's office on the phone. They didn't deny it was printed in Germany. Why don't you phone and ask yours?

    Did you seriously ring them to ask that? Jeez dude you need get out more
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  • kabayiri
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    Did you seriously ring them to ask that? Jeez dude you need get out more

    Err, where did I say that I rang them? You should read what I wrote.

    They phoned me ;)

    [yeah, I'm a veritable pillar of the community, hehe]

    Besides, I do work for a print firm sometimes, and I'm worried if they can compete on costs (the last production run cost something like £2 to £3 per item, which isn't close to 30p per item including postage).
  • BobQ
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    But my point is that the claim below is wrong.

    wymondham wrote: »
    Due to the German quality of the print, the leaflet is very good at propping up my wonky table, so not a fruitless exercise in my book.

    Why didn't they use a UK printer? This seems to be a bizarre oversight as not even the Government want to invest in the UK??

    If you want to print 27 million copies of a booklet you have a limited choice of who can do the job. The firm they chose was Williams Lea, a UK printing company which dates back to 1820 and regularly does bulk printing for HMRC. True Deutsche Bank is now a major shareholder but that does not mean it was printed in Germany.

    But hey just claim it was done by a German firm, what has fact got to do with it. Is this what Brexit is reduced to doing?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • fatbeetle
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    It's German owned;
    It also emerged last night that the firm which printed the Government’s leaflet is owned by a German company given repeated hand-outs by the European Commission. Williams Lea, a UK printing company owned by German-based Deutsche Post DHL, confirmed to The Telegraph that it produced the campaign leaflets.
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
  • Generali
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    fatbeetle wrote: »
    It's German owned;

    It's a multinational. Listed in Germany with a German headquarters and companies all over the world.

    The original claim is that the booklet was printed in Germany. It's a long way from there to a UK firm that is the subsidiary of a multinational headquartered in Germany.

    Frankly if the fact that some leaflets get printed in such a way causes such a fuss implies that the Brexit campaign is weak at best.

    Any idea what the plan is for after you lot leave or is that still up in the air?
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