Help please, what is my 16 year old entitled to

Feral_Moon

But she's not a British citizen having been born in HK and lived in USA. She's never lived in the UK. Her parents are ex-Pats.

MissMoneypenny

Feral_Moon wrote: »

But she's not a British citizen having been born in HK and lived in USA. She's never lived in the UK. Her parents are ex-Pats.

Her parents are British citizens at birth, who were born in the UK. That makes them British citizens otherwise than by descent.

A British citizen otherwise than by descent, who has a child born outside the UK, passes British citizenship onto their child. Their child is born a British citizen by descent. thorsoak's granddaughter is a British citizen.

SnooksNJ

Charityworker wrote: »

I've had nothing but judgemental comments and nasty negative comments and people presuming they know me and my daughter and all the complexities of her condition on here. Didn't realise there were so many mental health specialists around.

I'm unsure how your daughter being offered a job but your afraid she will lose her benefit relates to mental heath.

unforeseen

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Her parents are British citizens at birth, who were born in the UK. That makes them British citizens otherwise than by descent.

A British citizen otherwise than by descent, who has a child born outside the UK, passes British citizenship onto their child. Their child is born a British citizen by descent. thorsoak's granddaughter is a British citizen.

Which only gives her a right to reside. She must still pass the HRT to get anything else

MissMoneypenny

unforeseen wrote: »

Which only gives her a right to reside. She must still pass the HRT to get anything else

I'm not disputing that. I was showing how she was a British citizen, even though she wasn't born in the UK and has never lived in the UK.

Although I would have thought that her grandparents could claim CB and maybe CTC for her if she is at school, as they will pass the HRT??? She can't claim benefits in her own name until she passes the HRT.

As said, she will not get the lower Home Fees or a Student Loan for university.

She may be able to use the NHS for free as she will be residing here and is a British citizen, but that would depend on if she was just in the UK during term time - the NHS will have the say on whether she must be billed.

thorsoak

Feral_Moon wrote: »

But she's not a British citizen having been born in HK and lived in USA. She's never lived in the UK. Her parents are ex-Pats.

Her parents are British (my DD would say she is half english half scottish, her father is Essex born & bred from umpteen generations) - her birth was registered at the British Embassy in Hong Kong and her first british passport was dated fifteen days after her birth. There is no doubt about her british citizenship.

In actual fact, her parents still maintain british bank accounts and they still own a house over here - though whether or not they will ever live here again is still undecided.

thorsoak

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

As she is a British citizen (albeit British by descent) she will be allowed to use the NHS for free when she can prove that she resides in the UK and has not just come back to try to get free NHS treatment. HOWEVER, if she plans to return home to her parents during the holdiays, I'm not sure how the NHS would view her status in the UK and she might find she is billed at point of use. If that is the case, then make sure she has full insurance to cover everything, including accidents too, as the NHS now add 50% to the bill if there is no insurance.

If by a 17 year old coming to the UK to "carry on her studies in the UK" you mean university, then the UK have changed the rules to stop ex pats sending their children to the UK for cheaper university fees. The parents and their children have to reside in the UK for at least 3 years before the September university start, to get home fees for their children.

She will have to pay International rates for university and will not be allowed UK Student Loans. She might want to look at student funding from the US before she moves to the UK to find their terms for a loan for students who study abroad. This is how US citizens fund their university studies in the UK and as her parents pay their taxes to the US she should be able to get these, even if she hasn't become a US citizen yet.

As ex pats were sending their children back alone to live with relatives or to boarding school , to try to avoid paying international fees, this has been blocked. Her parents remaining in the US while they send her to you to carry on her studies, will mean that time won't count towards the 3 years residency for home fees.

You will also need to enquire about whether a 17 year old will be allowed free schooling or free college, as her parents are still in the US. Her parents may have to pay for that too. I'm not up to date with the age limit of compulsory education in the UK

Some US students go to other EU countries for their studies as they offer free tuition and the courses are taught in English. Countries like Germany who offer these courses, do not give the students free healhtcare though, so she would need health insurance. It would still be cheaper than paying for university education in the US or the UK.

No, she is not attending uni here, she is going to a fee-paying 6th form college for a year. Her parents are funding this, just as they are funding her brother's uni course in the USA.

thorsoak

I would add that there never has been any intention to buck the system or to claim any benefits for my DGD. Her parents have prospered by going expat, and can afford to pay for their children. There have never been any claims for CB, they have paid any time that they have been over here and needed to see a doctor. What they do want is for their children to experience as near a teenage year as they themselves had - so that's why she will be looking for a job!