Help please, what is my 16 year old entitled to

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The college's student advice area might be the best place to go to for advice.

Cheeky_Monkey

Darksparkle wrote: »

I think you'll find that wasn't the OP (RachS) but another poster (Charityworker) as I stated!

Ooops, so it was Beg your pardon

Hasbeen

Cheeky_Monkey wrote: »

Ooops, so it was Beg your pardon

Or same person?

dippy3103

Is she a uk citizen & how long has she been abroad?

MissMoneypenny

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If the OP's daughter is becoming resident in the UK then she won't need health insurance.

Just to make that perfectly clear; if she is a British citizen or Irish citizen who is returning to the UK to live, then she won't have to pay to use the NHS she but might need to prove she has returned to live in the UK.

Merely being a legal resident of the UK no longer gets that person free NHS if they aren't a Brit, Irish citizen of have a valid ILR (Indefinate leave to Remain). Some (not all) are allowed free NHS under the EU's free movement of workers.

The UK decided to stop being so generous with it's NHS and the law was changed under the Immigration Act 2014, with the NHS part of that law starting on 6 April 2015. 50% is added to the bill if they don't have insurance to pay (for non EU citizens). EU citizens can use their own countries EHIC or pay the bill themselves.


Some other good news -
England seems to be bringing in the end of "free A&E for all" (if they are not allowed free use of the NHS). Some countries will pay for their own citizens under reciprocal agreements. It seems that England also intend to bill these people who must pay, for the use of an ambulance and treatment of a paramedic at the scene.

This end of free A&E in England is being done because it is unfair that England gives them this for free when their country doesn't do the same for Brits in their country. It also stops these people who don't bother to have health insurance as they will just clog up the waiting rooms in the A&E or drop in centre for any treatment as they don't want to pay.

pleasedelete

She may well not be eligible for free tuition. You may find out that she is initially accepted but then the college may be unable to claim funding for her

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/459535/EFA_Funding_guidance_2015_to_2016.pdf

thorsoak

One of my DGDs - who was born in HK, now lives in USA with both her British ex-pat parents (both of whom were born in the UK, grew up, lived, married and paid UK taxes prior to going ex-pat status in the 1990s) is coming back to the UK at the end of the summer, to carry on her studies in the UK. She will initially be staying with me, but hopes to get a p/t job alongside her studies. We know that she isn't entitled to free NHS services, nor any benefits (she will be 17 when she arrives) . When her parents took the decision to go ex-pat, they knew that they were giving up certain rights and made decisions accordingly.

poppasmurf_bewdley

thorsoak wrote: »

One of my DGDs - who was born in HK, now lives in USA with both her British ex-pat parents (both of whom were born in the UK, grew up, lived, married and paid UK taxes prior to going ex-pat status in the 1990s) is coming back to the UK at the end of the summer, to carry on her studies in the UK. She will initially be staying with me, but hopes to get a p/t job alongside her studies. We know that she isn't entitled to free NHS services, nor any benefits (she will be 17 when she arrives) . When her parents took the decision to go ex-pat, they knew that they were giving up certain rights and made decisions accordingly.

Which is how it should be.

Interestingly, the OP hasn't been back since she was told that her daughter was probably entitled to sweet fanny adams, and took offence at being told what she didn't want to hear.

NYM

To be fair, there was nothing that could be gained from continuing the thread because she had her answer albeit not the one that she wanted.

MissMoneypenny

thorsoak wrote: »

One of my DGDs - who was born in HK, now lives in USA with both her British ex-pat parents (both of whom were born in the UK, grew up, lived, married and paid UK taxes prior to going ex-pat status in the 1990s) is coming back to the UK at the end of the summer, to carry on her studies in the UK. She will initially be staying with me, but hopes to get a p/t job alongside her studies. We know that she isn't entitled to free NHS services, nor any benefits (she will be 17 when she arrives) . When her parents took the decision to go ex-pat, they knew that they were giving up certain rights and made decisions accordingly.

As she is a British citizen (albeit British by descent) she will be allowed to use the NHS for free when she can prove that she resides in the UK and has not just come back to try to get free NHS treatment. HOWEVER, if she plans to return home to her parents during the holdiays, I'm not sure how the NHS would view her status in the UK and she might find she is billed at point of use. If that is the case, then make sure she has full insurance to cover everything, including accidents too, as the NHS now add 50% to the bill if there is no insurance.

If by a 17 year old coming to the UK to "carry on her studies in the UK" you mean university, then the UK have changed the rules to stop ex pats sending their children to the UK for cheaper university fees. The parents and their children have to reside in the UK for at least 3 years before the September university start, to get home fees for their children.

She will have to pay International rates for university and will not be allowed UK Student Loans. She might want to look at student funding from the US before she moves to the UK to find their terms for a loan for students who study abroad. This is how US citizens fund their university studies in the UK and as her parents pay their taxes to the US she should be able to get these, even if she hasn't become a US citizen yet.

As ex pats were sending their children back alone to live with relatives or to boarding school , to try to avoid paying international fees, this has been blocked. Her parents remaining in the US while they send her to you to carry on her studies, will mean that time won't count towards the 3 years residency for home fees.

You will also need to enquire about whether a 17 year old will be allowed free schooling or free college, as her parents are still in the US. Her parents may have to pay for that too. I'm not up to date with the age limit of compulsory education in the UK

Some US students go to other EU countries for their studies as they offer free tuition and the courses are taught in English. Countries like Germany who offer these courses, do not give the students free healhtcare though, so she would need health insurance. It would still be cheaper than paying for university education in the US or the UK.