The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

The game is on.

Won't have to listen to Angus Robertson for much longer, happy days.

IveSeenTheLight

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

An abstention is as good as a vote against it.

I'll take that and put it in the same box as adhering to guidelines is not correct.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Angus Robertson's speech in parliament today openly admitted they are against having it, yet in the next sentence said they welcome it, interesting logic.

I clarified this earlier

"We are supporters of the Fixed Term Parliament Act, and that means that parliaments should go their term.

Mr Robertson insisted he "absolutely" relished the prospect of an election, and said the SNP would be contesting every seat in Scotland with the intention of winning them.

He said the vote "will be an opportunity for us in Scotland to at least get some insurance against the worst excesses of a hard-right Brexit, which is what the UK government is steering towards".

Mr Robertson also confirmed that the SNP winning a majority of seats in Scotland would not be enough for the country to become independent - with a referendum needed to decide the issue.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Edit: Your part in bold is something I've also argued.

It's a wasted vote, you'd be better off voting for the Lib Dems in terms of achieving socialist policies at Westminster.

Sorry, I need to call you up on that one.
Thats absolute b0llocks

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Its not a wasted vote, its an opportunity once again to show that the Scottish electorate are not in alignment with the government policies or those of the traditional opposition.

Its an opportunity to show that we want to have control over our future and ensure that we are not over exposed to austerity cuts that the conservatives proposed.

kelpie35

Sorry but a lot of Scottish people are supporting the UK government.

I am so fed up with people thinking that we are all "little sheep" and follow everything the Scottish Government do or want. (SNP)

The SNP are not a party looking after their own people, they are only interested in independence and cannot do the job they were elected to do.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Which she faced not only here in the UK remember.;)

“May I remind the Scottish Nationalists that actually now is the time for them to put their tunnel vision on independence and actually explain to the Scottish people why under the SNP they are not putting as much money into the health service as they’ve been given from the UK, they’re not exercising the powers they’ve been given, Scottish education is getting worse.“It is time they got back to their day jobs.”

I liked May's response to Angus Robertson earlier in PMQ's:

Did you?
Were they with foundation?
It's evident that Theresa May says one thing but can mean another.

Just on a couple of the points she said in your quote: -

1. Record health funding - over £13 billion in 2017, £3.6 billion more than when they took office
2. Higher exam passes up by a third since 2007, they’re investing record amounts in schools to close the attainment gap. £120 million will go direct to schools this year alone

A_Medium_Size_Jock

kelpie35 wrote: »

Sorry but a lot of Scottish people are supporting the UK government.

I am so fed up with people thinking that we are all "little sheep" and follow everything the Scottish Government do or want. (SNP)

The SNP are not a party looking after their own people, they are only interested in independence and cannot do the job they were elected to do.

Quite so.
Sadly it seems that some insist upon denying that.
So much so that they feel they need to resort to swearing.
As I said before, these numbers of staunch pro-SNP supporters are decreasing.
As will soon be seen.

IveSeenTheLight

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The game is on.

Won't have to listen to Angus Robertson for much longer, happy days.

I wish more of the MP's spoke like Angus Robertson.
To the point, succint and holding the government to account as opposed to some wishy washy, back slapping, old school gesticulations that go on in the Westminster chamber

TrickyTree83

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I'll take that and put it in the same box as adhering to guidelines is not correct.



I clarified this earlier




Sorry, I need to call you up on that one.
Thats absolute b0llocks

Please have a new moneysavingexpert badge I'll promote for use


Its not a wasted vote, its an opportunity once again to show that the Scottish electorate are not in alignment with the government policies or those of the traditional opposition.

Its an opportunity to show that we want to have control over our future and ensure that we are not over exposed to austerity cuts that the conservatives proposed.

Hahaha

I must have missed the last GE when the SNP stood in every constituency in the UK in order to get into government...

It's a wasted vote.

I also never said adhering to guidelines was wrong, but I have said the guidelines themselves are wrong.

It's like debating with a whirling dervish, which way are you going to turn next to get out of the hole you've dug for yourself?

Edit: If Angus Robertson supports the fixed term parliament act, then he must also support what's gone on today since that is in accordance with that act.

Unless those are not his words? If they are his words he gets his knickers in a twist as much as you.

IveSeenTheLight

kelpie35 wrote: »

cannot do the job they were elected to do.

I'm interested, what specifically were they elected to do that you believe they have failed to do?

IveSeenTheLight

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Hahaha

I must have missed the last GE when the SNP stood in every constituency in the UK in order to get into government...

It's a wasted vote.

I also never said adhering to guidelines was wrong, but I have said the guidelines themselves are wrong.

It's like debating with a whirling dervish, which way are you going to turn next to get out of the hole you've dug for yourself?

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A_Medium_Size_Jock

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Did you?
Were they with foundation?
It's evident that Theresa May says one thing but can mean another.

Just on a couple of the points she said in your quote: -

1. Record health funding - over £13 billion in 2017, £3.6 billion more than when they took office
2. Higher exam passes up by a third since 2007, they’re investing record amounts in schools to close the attainment gap. £120 million will go direct to schools this year alone

The one saying one thing but meaning another is you - as has been repeatedly pointed out in here.

re:1

Scotland's largest health board flag up high levels of failure in dozen key areas including early cancer detection

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scotlands-largest-health-board-flag-10159802

Scotland’s NHS faces massive cuts as the health service fails to keep pace with increasing demand, rising costs and the needs of an ageing population, according to the public finances watchdog. The damning report from Audit Scotland warns that some NHS boards may not be able to balance their books next year, and reveals that the service met only one of its eight key waiting time targets last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/27/scottish-nhs-failing-demand-watchdog-audit-scotland-nicola-sturgeon


Re:2

SNP under fire as Scottish education system records worst ever rating for maths, reading and science

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/06/snp-fire-scottish-education-system-records-worst-ever-rating/

MSPs vote against SNP over ‘failing’ Scots education system

http://www.scotsman.com/news/msps-vote-against-snp-over-failing-scots-education-system-1-4386121


You want more?
There's plenty.
So I would hazard a wild guess and say ......... plenty of foundation for what May said.
And I'm no great fan of May at that.