The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Not that your averse to being wrong, but yet again you are
Again, not an insult, just an observation

The SNP are abstaining from the vote, not voting against it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39640394



As I've said before, I too believe in the fixed term parliaments.

I guess that its good that there is some opposition to this ludicrous change from following the fixed term parliament period.

From an SNP perspective, there is a risk here.
They currently have 56 of the 59 seats so there is a risk that there could be a few seats lost, albeit they will campaign for all seats


I guess thats the thing holding back Scotland is that they can only realistically target the 59 seats out of 650

An abstention is as good as a vote against it.

Angus Robertson's speech in parliament today openly admitted they are against having it, yet in the next sentence said they welcome it, interesting logic.

Edit: Your part in bold is something I've also argued.

It's a wasted vote, you'd be better off voting for the Lib Dems in terms of achieving socialist policies at Westminster.

TrickyTree83

mayonnaise wrote: »

Deary me...:)

What can I say, I was listening to the debate and not reading. My mistake.

Pull up the transcript of his speech, you'll see where my mistake was made.

And besides - that's not really a personal opinion of mine is it. But good effort mayo, nearly.

mayonnaise

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

What can I say, I was listening to the debate and not reading. My mistake.

I'll let you off this time, Tricky
But next time, make sure to stick to your personal responsibility rule of reading and learning before posting eh.

davomcdave

sss555s wrote: »

Then there's this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVxu6DbFlgc

There must have been a massive problem if she's willing to lose all credibility to everyone except the die hard Torys.

Well she's put her credibility to the test so we'll see how she does.

Maybe the English electorate will be devastated by this betrayal and set the Scots free in a unilateral act of love. Or something, something nobody cares.

We'll see. My money is on the something one because really, who cares? I mean apart from you of course. Obviously you care a lot. You wrote some stuff down and that is important. I guess.

kabayiri

I think 'Our Theresa' had a Damascus moment whilst out walking in the Snowdonian hills over the break.

Seeing all those sheep blindly following each other must have reminded her about the Labour party, when she watched them collectively push the bolshy 'head sheep' over the cliff.

IveSeenTheLight

kabayiri wrote: »

It's their choice though. Or would you prefer that they had no say in the matter whatsoever?

I'm sure those who have been in politics a long time will know that there is never an ideal time.

Holding a snap election in the same week the European parliament get to vote on the A50 negotiations, that would also be seen as bad timing.

Holding a snap election in the immediate run up to German elections could be considered unhelpful too.

Personally, I don't think much progress would have been made in the Brexit negotiations between now and June. I'm not even sure we have moved out of the posturing and positioning phase.

I agree and understand.

Personally, I wonder if TM is feeling the pressure and is using this as an opportunity to increase the Conservative ranks, else can use as a reasoning for standing down.

She does appear to be feeling the pressure.

That said, she could also be looking to quash the "unelected PM" slur

kabayiri

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I agree and understand.

Personally, I wonder if TM is feeling the pressure and is using this as an opportunity to increase the Conservative ranks, else can use as a reasoning for standing down.

She does appear to be feeling the pressure.

That said, she could also be looking to quash the "unelected PM" slur

There must be pressure. I rarely believe politicians earn their corn, but in this case I think she is due danger money on top!

I just could not imagine Corbyn trying to negotiate with the EU. They would suspect he doesn't have the stomach for a row. He would alienate half the country were he elected.

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

I think 'Our Theresa' had a Damascus moment whilst out walking in the Snowdonian hills over the break.

Seeing all those sheep blindly following each other must have reminded her about the Labour party, when she watched them collectively push the bolshy 'head sheep' over the cliff.

According to the Independent a little bird told Mrs. May Corbyn was about to resign and that's what caused the latest U-turn.

A better labour leader and a 'snaggy' Brexit might make 2020 look a little different for the Tories.

Not that they need worry. After Miliiband and Corbyn they'll probably go for Diane Abbott.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

That said, she could also be looking to quash the "unelected PM" slur

Which she faced not only here in the UK remember.;)


I liked May's response to Angus Robertson earlier in PMQ's:

“May I remind the Scottish Nationalists that actually now is the time for them to put their tunnel vision on independence and actually explain to the Scottish people why under the SNP they are not putting as much money into the health service as they’ve been given from the UK, they’re not exercising the powers they’ve been given, Scottish education is getting worse.“It is time they got back to their day jobs.”

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

Not that they need worry. After Miliiband and Corbyn they'll probably go for Diane Abbott.

*Splutter*
You made me spill my coffee!

Though you have a point.