The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shaka_Zulu

kabayiri wrote: »

If the next Scottish referendum is advisory only, then I do not see why they can not present a range of options, and get people to vote and order their top 3.

Ever been to a restaurant with a menu that is too long, that you just can't make up your mind?

Thrugelmir

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Ever been to a restaurant with a menu that is too long, that you just can't make up your mind?

Having a good waiter can help one choose though. As talks through the menu in a knowledgable fashion.

elantan

kabayiri wrote: »

If the next Scottish referendum is advisory only, then I do not see why they can not present a range of options, and get people to vote and order their top 3.

This could include the Orkney+Shetland option.

I mean why not? It goes to the heart of what self determinism means to you.

The SNP is just one political party with a particular flavour. It isn't especially long lived, and it has changed in it's short history.

They can put the independence issue in to the public space, but the actual topic runs much wider. You can't promote voting for independence just because you hate the Tories. The Tories could be out of power within a decade. Politics always swings.

Did they give a few options for the Brexit advisory referendum ? I must've missed that

And which bit of geography are you struggling with Shetland and Orkney are in Scotland ... it's not like they are a wee country of their own ... so im sure they will accept the will of the Scottish vote ... after all they voted their first snp councillor in recently ... or so I heard

kabayiri

elantan wrote: »

Did they give a few options for the Brexit advisory referendum ? I must've missed that

And which bit of geography are you struggling with Shetland and Orkney are in Scotland ... it's not like they are a wee country of their own ... so im sure they will accept the will of the Scottish vote ... after all they voted their first snp councillor in recently ... or so I heard

Do you prefer Geography or History ?

It's just a question as to what point you return to. You prefer the Scotland as it was 300 years ago.

So why can't our Island friends choose a point a little earlier, and reunite with Norway?

At least the Norwegians seem to know how to value oil reserves as an asset.

kabayiri

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Ever been to a restaurant with a menu that is too long, that you just can't make up your mind?

Ahh, so you're saying that the SNP style referendum is a bit like eating at Maccy D's ?

Hmm, think I'll pass

TrickyTree83

I'm still waiting for a response to what was said in the video rather than the character of the person who posted it. Stalin could have posted it from the dead, it doesn't change the content. Beecher and Shakey, please respond to the content rather than who tweeted it.

Why do we have to play these silly games? Why?

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm still waiting for a response to what was said in the video rather than the character of the person who posted it. Stalin could have posted it from the dead, it doesn't change the content. Beecher and Shakey, please respond to the content rather than who tweeted it.

Why do we have to play these silly games? Why?

Honestly ? Move on. The vote has happened now. The Greens vote against the SNP on some things, and with them on others. Both parties are pro-independence and if people don't like that then they don't need to vote for them. They can vote Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem instead.

All three unionist parties are also going to have to move on now. Including folks like Blair McDougall. And start presenting some serious positives to Scottish voters about Brexit and what staying within the UK now means with the Conservatives in power for a while. They've dined out on stopping a Holyrood vote on a second referendum for long enough. They failed.

There are 100's of Davidson clips doing the rounds with her howling about how devastating leaving the Single Market would be. Hasn't stopped her cheerleading doing so though. It's just how politics is Tricky.

zagubov

islandannie wrote: »

Well I`m still waiting for any SNP poster on this thread to tell us how powerfull and rich we were as a nation before the union with England.

You know what I think.They can`t because we weren`t.

It`s about time our schools taught history instead of wishtory,no wonder we are slipping so far behind English schools.

Time to concentrate on real history as opposed to SNP lies.

Scandinavia used to be poor. Now it's not, and none of it is a junior partner in a political union similar to the UK, but all of it is in the free trade bloc of the EEA.

So why does Scotland always have to stay in a political union, should its citizens democratically scrutinise its decisions and decide differently?

mollycat

zagubov wrote: »

Scandinavia used to be poor. Now it's not, and none of it is a junior partner in a political union similar to the UK, but all of it is in the free trade bloc of the EEA.

So why does Scotland always have to stay in a political union, should its citizens democratically scrutinise its decisions and decide differently?

I think if people in Scotland, (or any part of the UK), had the tax burden that individuals do in Scandinavian countries they'd be screaming blue murder.

This point is always glossed over when the "what's to stop us being like (insert random Scandinavian country here)" brigade are out in force.

TrickyTree83

zagubov wrote: »

Scandinavia used to be poor. Now it's not, and none of it is a junior partner in a political union similar to the UK, but all of it is in the free trade bloc of the EEA.

The EEA is a junior partner status. Allowed in the club, but not having a say.

zagubov wrote: »

So why does Scotland always have to stay in a political union, should its citizens democratically scrutinise its decisions and decide differently?

Because Scotland is integrated so deeply with the rUK that to pry yourselves away will damage you (and rUK). On day 2 of being independent, you will not suddenly have the Finnish education system, or the Norwegian oil fund. You will however have similar levels of tax to Scandinavia or substantially less services than you enjoy currently.