The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

elantan

beecher2 wrote: »

Blimey. What do you mean by 'euthanized from within'? There was never a time when we were all 'British', I do wonder if you'd use language like that if you were in N Ireland. People transposed English and British, thinking they meant the same things while many in Scotland, myself included, have always thought of themselves as Scottish.

How do you imagine changing people's perceptions of their own identities?

Wonder if he means euthanized similar to the Highland and lowland clearances or the tattie famine over the water... I'm sure those people kicked off their land felt very British

cogito

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Any vote in Scotland must come before 2020 because there's nothing to stop the next Westminster parliament going back on what was promised in the last.

In your dreams. Sadly for you, it will only happen when the parliament of the whole of the UK gives its consent. Tough luck if you don't like it.

Personally, I would like this question to be laid to rest for once and all as it should have been in 2014. But of course, the Nats cannot be trusted to keep their word that it had been settled for a generation and even if they get defeated in the next referendum whenever it takes place, they will be back again with some pretext for another and so on.

It's sad for the Scots that they have lumbered themselves with this pathetic excuse for a government which puts health and education a distant second and third place to their obsession with ridding themselves of the hated English. It's not a surprise that a poll today has put Brexit as being more important to UK voters than preserving the union.

I don,t actually believe that the SNP's desire for another referendum has the support of more than a small minority of Scottish voters, the ones who have swallowed the SNP's poison hook line and sinker but I am getting to the point where I wish that the Scots would just b***er off as we have far more important things to do than listen the incessant whining from north of the border.

elantan

Sturgeons speech is good if anyone fancies a watch

.string.

elantan wrote: »

Sturgeons speech is good if anyone fancies a watch

No - watching rugby is more interesting and less predictable

Is she talking about Scottish education?

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Address the issues like grown ups then.

You think Scotland contributes so much, why does money get repatriated from mainly England to Scotland?

Let me guess, Westminster's fault?

As I said before, this kind of thinking needs to be put down, so that we can end the misery it so clearly causes between the people of the UK.

Westminster takes the tax then dishes it out accordingly. I don't trust them for one minute as they have a past of deception and lies but besides that, we have everything to succeed and prosper.

One example, Osbourne slapped a 2bn extra tax on the north oil industry which made the bottom line higher for investment and exploration. It wasn't that much longer that the price dropped making it less viable and causing job losses and strangling the industry. I understand that taxes have been cut to enable recovery which is going well at the moment. At no point was this extra tax from Scottish resources credited to Scotland and it all diapered into Westminster. This is just one example why it's all a load of c**p.

What does that last sentence even mean! No one cares what you have said as you are only trying to protect your investments and you haven't got a vote. The best way to sort it out is to manage our own affairs. The sky isn't going to fall in, despite your constant project fear. Scotland can do better long term than it is under Westminster control.

Maybe it will be better for your investments in the long run

paparossco

.string. wrote: »

No - watching rugby is more interesting and less predictable

I wish last week had been a tad less predictable........

sss555s

elantan wrote: »

Sturgeons speech is good if anyone fancies a watch

It sounds good going by Sky news..

Nicola Sturgeon has insisted to a rapturous crowd at her party's conference that "there will be an independence referendum".
She went on to lambaste Theresa May, saying that "the Prime minister's attitude should worry us all" and warned: "Stop putting the interests of the right wing of your party ahead of the interests of the people of our party."
Ms Sturgeon also invited people in the UK who did not like Brexit to come to Scotland.
She said: "We will become a magnet for talent and investment from all cross the UK.
"So let me issue this open invitation today: Scotland isn't full up.
"If you are as appalled as we are at the path this Westminster government is taking, come and join us. Come here to live, work, invest or study.
"Come to Scotland and be part of building a modern, progressive, outward-looking, compassionate country."
She continued: "Scotland's future must be Scotland's choice."
Still mid-speech, Ms Sturgeon has had no less than three standing ovations.
Setting out her plan, she said she wants a "fair, legal and agreed" referendum "at a time when we know the terms of Brexit but before it is too late to take a different path".
But she said: "It is down to use to make the economic case for independence."
In a swipe at Theresa May who said that now was not the time for an independence referendum, Ms Sturgeon the prime minister "had time to think again" adding "the will of our parliament will and must prevail".
She sparked another standing ovation when she said the days of Tory governments dictating to Scotland are "gone and not coming back".

cogito

sss555s wrote: »

It sounds good going by Sky news..

Utterly delusional.

Shaka_Zulu

sss555s wrote: »

It sounds good going by Sky news..

Sounds like a wet dream to me.

beecher2

Can read it here. Liked the inclusiveness.

https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_s_address_to_snp_spring_conference_2017

So let me issue this open invitation today.

Scotland isn't full up.

If you are as appalled as we are at the path this Westminster government is taking, come and join us.

Come here to live, work, invest or study.

Come to Scotland - and be part of building a modern, progressive, outward-looking, compassionate country.