The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

How can it be an SNP game, when NI and Wales devolved parliaments are arguing the same points as the Scottish one ?
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Oh, have Wales and NI politicians sent a delegation out to Norway/Iceland/Sweden/<insert country here> ?

It's always the SNP moaning in the media.

Mind, I'd make use of Tasmina Any-Party-Will-Do whilst I can, if I were the SNP. There isn't a political ship in existence that she isn't capable of jumping to.

Shakethedisease

Moto2 wrote: »

Phew .... I'm glad I'm back in your posts, I was worried sick you'd put me on ignore. :^)

I'm sure you would have posted the update just as soon as you'd seen it
I'd have words though if I were you, it really isn't on that you're left to run the MSE chapter of the spinSNP® all by yourself.

I do apologise. Next time my kids need picking up from school and straight to a dentist appointment I'll ignore all that and sit watching Glenn Campbell updates on Twitter instead.

I come here to relax and talk about something else entirely from the forum I run. Keeps the old brain ticking over.. and besides, this thread would just turn into an echo chamber based on Daily Express headlines if I wasn't about.

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

Oh, have Wales and NI politicians sent a delegation out to Norway/Iceland/Sweden/<insert country here> ?

It's always the SNP moaning in the media.

In the Supreme Court, more or less the same arguments, yes. As for delegations, how else will Scotland get it's ducks in a row for remaining in the EU/or Single Market/or another independence referendum if they don't start sorting it out now. Can't hang about forever waiting on Theresa May to finally stop twiddling her thumbs in silence.

Mind, I'd make use of Tasmina Any-Party-Will-Do whilst I can, if I were the SNP. There isn't a political ship in existence that she isn't capable of jumping to.

Not keen on her myself as I've already said.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It is a gift. Looks also like poor hapless Kezia Dugdale picked entirely the wrong week to make an important speech on further devolution powers to Scotland. :rotfl:

How can it be a gift when it was always the case?

There are no acts of parliament that parliament cannot repeal, at least that's how I understand it.

How could anyone think otherwise? Therefore it's only a gift if idiots can be persuaded that this is somehow a gift. Pretty poor tactics to rely on the stupidity of others to gain ground instead of trying to make a genuinely sound argument for independence. No?

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

In the Supreme Court, more or less the same arguments, yes. As for delegations, how else will Scotland get it's ducks in a row for remaining in the EU/or Single Market/or another independence referendum if they don't start sorting it out now. Can't hang about forever waiting on Theresa May to finally stop twiddling her thumbs in silence.
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If the SNP got a mandate from the people of Scotland via even an advisory referendum it would give you far more ducks to put in a row.

Cameron made the same mistake of going to Europe for a deal without any clear mandate. The EU states called his bluff, and sent him home without very much in his pocket.

How does it look if you get solid backing from the likes of Norway, and then later find you don't get the referendum results you require?

Much egg on face methinks.

Moto2

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

There are no acts of parliament that parliament cannot repeal, at least that's how I understand it.

Yes, the sovereignty of parliament is supreme

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

If the SNP got a mandate from the people of Scotland via even an advisory referendum it would give you far more ducks to put in a row.

Cameron made the same mistake of going to Europe for a deal without any clear mandate. The EU states called his bluff, and sent him home without very much in his pocket.

How does it look if you get solid backing from the likes of Norway, and then later find you don't get the referendum results you require?

Much egg on face methinks.

Your argument falls down on the EU bluff part. Scotland is out of the EU with the UK, or calls a referendum and may or may not be out of the EU that way too if it's either a No vote, or the EU says No.

Nothing to lose by giving it a shot. It might be a Yes vote, and the EU/EFTA might be fine with Scotland remaining or joining respectively. Options are all open, but staying with the UK for fear of a No vote closes ALL of them down. Including any sort of say and risking Westminster closing down devolution powers at any point in the future.

Article 50 first though.

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I come here to relax and talk about something else entirely from the forum I run. Keeps the old brain ticking over.. and besides, this thread would just turn into an echo chamber based on Daily Express headlines if I wasn't about.

ATTENTION........

Lack of insight alert!!:rotfl:

TrickyTree83

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/transport-minister-humza-yousaf-embarrassed-after-driving-without-insurance-11364119301637

Such a competent individual.

I wonder if independence will make him comply with the law like most other citizens? It seems to be the answer to everything else...

Hintza

More trouble at the coal face from within the ranks.

As the Press and Journal’s Keep HIE Local campaign gathers pace, the agency’s former chairman and SNP party member, Professor Jim Hunter, today accuses SNP ministers of launching an “assault” on its founding principles.