The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

A gift to pro-independence support in other words should it mean Westminster does whatever it likes regardless.

Sounds like a game is being played. Any angle which fits the SNP's agenda is being exploited. There's no serious attempt being made to manage and run Scotland for and on behalf of the broader population for their benefit. Irrespective of they voted for if at all. Perhaps like Italy and the US there'll eventually be a rebellion from those who feel excluded and left behind. Now that would be interesting.

Shakethedisease

Moto2 wrote: »

You missed a bit, I'm sure it was just an oversight

No oversight. The tweet you point out wasn't actually there when I posted here at that time. There was only the two which I posted. Mine were four hours ago, the one you highlighted three which you would have seen if yourself if you hadn't been in such a rush.

Glenn Campbell ‏@GlennBBC 4h4 hours ago But only once Article 50 has been triggered

Glenn Campbell ‏@GlennBBC 3h3 hours ago To be clear: meeting, listening to interested parties does not mean there'll be a separate negotiation - that will only be with UK

But a fabulous turnaround for the Scottish Govt none the less from 2014. Not being snubbed or 'slapped down'. I hope the Scottish Govt take full advantage.

Salmond also has been quietly busy behind the scenes.

SNP group led by Alex Salmond in talks on single market access in Norway

ALEX Salmond has led an SNP delegation to Norway to hold informal talks with the country’s political leaders as its Foreign Minister warned Theresa May there is no “silver bullet” for Brexit.
The former First Minister was joined by fellow MPs Joanna Cherry and Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh in Oslo, where they met Elsbeth Tronstad, State Secretary for the European Economic Area (EEA), as well as opposition politicians.

http://www.thenational.scot/politics/14947815.SNP_group_led_by_Alex_Salmond_in_talks_on_single_market_access_in_Norway/

kabayiri

It sounds like Brexit is already working....for SNP'ers (past & present) !

A couple of years ago Salmond and co could only dream about trekking around Euroland having soirees with anyone who will talk to them.

TrickyTree83

Doesn't look like a gift to pro-independence to me. The pledge was upheld, Holyrood still exists, Westminster can not create legislation that can never be repealed. How stupid do you have to be to think that to be the case? Honestly...

The argument for independence still doesn't stand up to scrutiny, it hasn't for years. Does a legal interpretation change that? No. They're just shining a light on how parliamentary democracy works.

The_Last_Username

Now proving yet again how inept the SNP are, Scottish schools have recorded their worst ever performance in an international survey of pupils.

Opposition parties said the results showed a "decade of educational failure" under the SNP government, with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon previously saying she wanted to be judged on her record on education.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729

TrickyTree83

The_Last_Username wrote: »

Now proving yet again how inept the SNP are, Scottish schools have recorded their worst ever performance in an international survey of pupils.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38207729

The SNP aren't to blame, it's.. someone else, for sure.

Cue the excuses.

The_Last_Username

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The SNP aren't to blame, it's.. someone else, for sure.

Cue the excuses.

Quite - though this from August 2015 will be difficult to excuse:

Ms Sturgeon added: “Let me be clear – I want to be judged on this. If you are not, as First Minister, prepared to put your neck on the line on the education of our young people then what are you prepared to. It really matters.”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/education/nicola-sturgeon-judge-me-on-education-record-1-3861506

Now that her neck is bared may I offer my services with a guillotine?
Figuratively speaking of course.

Moto2

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No oversight. The tweet you point out wasn't actually there when I posted here at that time. There was only the two which I posted. Mine were four hours ago, the one you highlighted three which you would have seen if yourself if you hadn't been in such a rush.

Phew .... I'm glad I'm back in your posts, I was worried sick you'd put me on ignore. :^)

I'm sure you would have posted the update just as soon as you'd seen it
I'd have words though if I were you, it really isn't on that you're left to run the MSE chapter of the spinSNP® all by yourself.

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sounds like a game is being played. Any angle which fits the SNP's agenda is being exploited. There's no serious attempt being made to manage and run Scotland for and on behalf of the broader population for their benefit. Irrespective of they voted for if at all. Perhaps like Italy and the US there'll eventually be a rebellion from those who feel excluded and left behind. Now that would be interesting.

How can it be an SNP game, when NI and Wales devolved parliaments are arguing the same points as the Scottish one ?

The problem with the Scottish aspect, is all the very recent grandstanding and 'Vow delivered' media back slapping that went on after the Scotland Act 2016 came into force. All based on insincere falsities and sold wholesale to the Scottish people as one of the 'the most powerful devolved parliaments in the world'.

I look forward to at least one journalist asking the Tories what the point was of putting something without legal effect into a law.

^^^^^ quite.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Doesn't look like a gift to pro-independence to me. The pledge was upheld, Holyrood still exists, Westminster can not create legislation that can never be repealed. How stupid do you have to be to think that to be the case? Honestly...

The argument for independence still doesn't stand up to scrutiny, it hasn't for years. Does a legal interpretation change that? No. They're just shining a light on how parliamentary democracy works.

It is a gift. Looks also like poor hapless Kezia Dugdale picked entirely the wrong week to make an important speech on further devolution powers to Scotland. :rotfl: