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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.
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Why shouldn't it? It and it's country don't want to leave, and want to show the EU that we want to stay.
Why are you brexiteers so upset about the idea? There's going to be EU flags up all over the place, once we leave and even more when we rejoin. You won, get over it snowflake :beer:
No problem with the U.K. and an independent Scotland rejoining the EU after a democratic vote on the issue. However, serious Governments and grown up politicians do not fly flags that have no right to be there in an attempt to make a partial political point.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
My flag is staying up.
Don't blame me, I voted Remain.0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »
This is quite interesting and a window on the Nationalist mentality.
I actually wrote that the appetite among the majority of Scots was zero for indyref2. That is quite patently true, and what else is patently true is that you and the SNP have no interest whatsoever in those Scots who don’t share your view on independence.
Your reply was a manifestation of that lack of interest in other Scots.
How do you conclude zero appetite for indyref 2 when the polling is within margin of error of 50:50? When 'no' rallies are outnumbered 1000:1 by yes rallies?0 -
No problem with the U.K. and an independent Scotland rejoining the EU after a democratic vote on the issue. However, serious Governments and grown up politicians do not fly flags that have no right to be there in an attempt to make a partial political point.
Who decides on whether we have a right to fly a flag? Westminster? The EU? I bet the former would refuse and the latter approve.
The EU isn't just going away on Feb 1st.0 -
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How do you conclude zero appetite for indyref 2 when the polling is within margin of error of 50:50? When 'no' rallies are outnumbered 1000:1 by yes rallies?
Democracy by rally numbers, nice one.
The polls consistently show a majority for ‘No’ which is why I’m suggesting the majority have no appetite for indyref2.
You do realise that yours is the minority opinion in Scotland, yes?“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
Who decides on whether we have a right to fly a flag? Westminster? The EU? I bet the former would refuse and the latter approve.
The EU isn't just going away on Feb 1st.
The latter would no doubt love to see its flag flying in a country where it no longer had any jurisdiction, but it doesn’t work that way. Not with grown up politicians anyway.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
We put up flags for visiting dignitaries do we not?
So what's to stop us putting up a flag to show solidarity with the Europeans that are here and being made to feel unwelcome?
Democracy by rally numbers, nice one.
Yeah, how dare I use the numbers of people willing to take a day to make their views known as a wind gauge of public views.[/quote]
The polls consistently show a majority for ‘No’ which is why I’m suggesting the majority have no appetite for indyref2.
You do realise that yours is the minority opinion in Scotland, yes?[/QUOTE]
The public appetite for independence is pretty even, rather than full or zero. You'd be lying to claim anything else.0 -
So you're conducting democracy for Scotland and it's electorate via randomly weighted polls by private companies ? Rather than actual votes at ballot boxes ? That's kind of silly. Theyre all weighed differently and are frequently wrong ( remain was supposed to win right ? ). Panelbase for example had the SNP at 38% before the GE. In fact none of them, Ipsos Mori excepted, predicted the SNP at anywhere near 45% of the votes. Please stop quoting polling as fact.
Democracy by rally numbers, nice one.
The polls consistently show a majority for ‘No’ which is why I’m suggesting the majority have no appetite for indyref2.
You do realise that yours is the minority opinion in Scotland, yes?
Sadly I think you may have a rather warped view of democratic legitimacy to be honest. You rely far too heavily on polls to tell us 'how it is'..when you should be looking at actual real voting and seat numbers. Or mabye you think we should just consult YovGov from now on and not bother with future elections or referendums ? What's the point of an actual election when we can have a few polls eh. :rotfl:
Ps I dont care if indy polling is at 5%. The Scottish electorate voted both to stay in the Uk and then to stay in the Eu. They must be given the opportunity to choose which path they want to take as a majority going forward.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
I think for Westminster to grant the current minority opinion in Scotland another indyref, they'll need to see a consistent trend in the polls in favour and of course a 50%+ vote for independence parties in a national election would help too.
In the meantime enjoy the rallies. “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0
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