Renting part furnished

HappyMJ

Dan-Dan wrote: »

OP asked if it would annoy a standard normal person , if i were a landlord , yes , it would annoy me , because i know how to do it , but i`d rather my tenants didnt because i dont trust people i didnt pay if i didnt do it myself

Would you evict your tenants for annoying you? They're paying the rent. That's the important part of running a lettings business...getting the rent. You have to take all emotion out of it.

I personally don't care what my tenants do. They've painted a wall without asking....I don't care. If they don't like the oven they can change it if they like that's up to them. I would appreciate if they ask but they can do it without asking. The house is theirs.

Dan-Dan

Guest101 wrote: »

But that might annoy your insurer... Where would it stop?


Also just an aside (underlined and bolded above) so you are as qualified as the OP? And would be happy to do it yourself?

In my own house yes , in a house i was intending to let out , i would pay someone who could furnish me with a certifcate of the work

Guest101

Dan-Dan wrote: »

In my own house yes , in a house i was intending to let out , i would pay someone who could furnish me with a certifcate of the work

Great - that's not what you said.


Either way, it's irrelevant as something which would annoy you, clearly wouldn't annoy me.

Dan-Dan

Guest101 wrote: »

Great - that's not what you said.


Either way, it's irrelevant as something which would annoy you, clearly wouldn't annoy me.

You could start an argument in an empty room :money:

FBaby

I don't think offering her the option of having it back is unreasonable.

From your first post, the option was for her to collect it or for you to take it to her, there was no option for you keeping it and you made it clear in your OP that doing so was not something you wanted.

Just like you, your landlord probably doesn't want something she has no used for to be taking precious space in her own property, why would she? One option would be for you to get a professional electrician to come and provide a certificate of safety and then you could ask her if she'd be happy for you to leave this oven behind when you go instead (in both cases, there would be wear and tear considered acceptable) and maybe suggest that you sell the other oven and divide the money in two.

If you are prepared to consider this, make SURE you have it all in writing.

Nickshrews

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not being rude, but can I just check something .....

Are you English/from England? (or Scottish/from Scotland; Irish/from Ireland).

You seem to be old enough to have acquired a good oven, but not overly experienced at the annoying UK rental system.

I was wondering, therefore, if you're something other than English/British/whatever. e.g. American, Canadian, Australian, NZ ...etc etc.

Im English from England. We rented our previous place for 6 years (Unfurnished) without fuss or bother. (Got full deposit back when we left, property was immaculate when we left).

Nickshrews

audigex wrote: »

Let me be more clear: anybody can do anything they want at any time, but there are ramifications. You're just being pedantic: clearly modifying wiring is unacceptable behaviour. I meant "You can't just do what you want without breaching the contract or behaving unacceptably/unreasonably"

The law about touching electricals would come down to the fact this isn't your property. You have permission to live in the property, but that doesn't make it yours. If I rent a car, can I start changing the turbocharger because I fancy a different one? Clearly not.

What kind of tenant re-wires a house? Exactly... this one. Not all of it, sure, but they still modified the wiring.

And the property is still somebody else's, they are just leasing it. That's a big difference. If you want to change the wiring, buy your own house.

Quite incorrect I'm afraid. As explained. I haven't rewired a house. or modified the wiring. I unscrewed the wall facia, unscrewed 3 colour coded wires and replaced with my own ovens 3 colour coded wires. - Have you done this yourself? - If so you will understand how wildly inaccurate your comment about rewiring a house was.

Hoploz

As a landlord I would be peed off if my tenant did this. I would have to pay to get my oven reinstalled at the end (ensuring it was done to proper standard as I am then letting to a blissfully unaware new tenant and for piece of mind I feel that would be reasonable.) so I would have to charge the tenant for this at the end.

I wouldn't have anywhere to store an oven, it would be an unexpected inconvenience for the whole duration of the tenancy.

Have you told the LL that you asked the EA specifically whether it would be ok and he said yes? HE is, to imy mind, liable for the storage and costs for putting back to how it was left at the end.

However this is pretty unusual. Most tenants don't ask to replace fittings. If you wanted a different bathroom suite would you expect to get permission to unplumb that and ask them about storing the old one?!!

So I think you should get it stored in a proper environment, eg Big Yellow or whatever, and either pay for it yourself or convince the EA it is his responsibility. Which will be tricky.

HappyMJ

Hoploz wrote: »

As a landlord I would be peed off if my tenant did this. I would have to pay to get my oven reinstalled at the end (ensuring it was done to proper standard as I am then letting to a blissfully unaware new tenant and for piece of mind I feel that would be reasonable.) so I would have to charge the tenant for this at the end.

I wouldn't have anywhere to store an oven, it would be an unexpected inconvenience for the whole duration of the tenancy.

Have you told the LL that you asked the EA specifically whether it would be ok and he said yes? HE is, to imy mind, liable for the storage and costs for putting back to how it was left at the end.

Connecting a cooker is no harder than wiring a plug. I think people are thinking it's a big job when it isn't.

However this is pretty unusual. Most tenants don't ask to replace fittings. If you wanted a different bathroom suite would you expect to get permission to unplumb that and ask them about storing the old one?!!

So I think you should get it stored in a proper environment, eg Big Yellow or whatever, and either pay for it yourself or convince the EA it is his responsibility. Which will be tricky.

A stand alone cooker is not a fixture or fitting though. It's considered contents. If I rented a fully furnished property and didn't like the plates I'd box everything up and use my own.

I doubt the deposit protection service would allow a deduction for checking the electrics at the end of a tenancy. LL's are supposed to do that between tenancies anyway without charging the tenant.

Guest101

Hoploz wrote: »

As a landlord I would be peed off if my tenant did this. I would have to pay to get my oven reinstalled at the end (ensuring it was done to proper standard as I am then letting to a blissfully unaware new tenant and for piece of mind I feel that would be reasonable.) so I would have to charge the tenant for this at the end. - On what basis? Does your contract allow you to charge him? I doubt that would be enforceable

I wouldn't have anywhere to store an oven, it would be an unexpected inconvenience for the whole duration of the tenancy. - It's not your responsibility.

Have you told the LL that you asked the EA specifically whether it would be ok and he said yes? HE is, to imy mind, liable for the storage and costs for putting back to how it was left at the end. - The agent represents the LL, if the Agent agreed, the LL is responsible.

However this is pretty unusual. Most tenants don't ask to replace fittings. If you wanted a different bathroom suite would you expect to get permission to unplumb that and ask them about storing the old one?!! - That's just silly. (though if the tenant wants to replace the bathroom, he could, as long as he restores the original when he (or she) leaves.

So I think you should get it stored in a proper environment, eg Big Yellow or whatever, and either pay for it yourself or convince the EA it is his responsibility. Which will be tricky.

Sorry disagree on many counts