MPs debate transitional state pension arrangements for women

jem16

monkeyspanner wrote: »

The only costed solutions that the government wish to hear about are cost neutral or cost saving and the government will not release any information about their own costings regarding transitional arrangements.

Transitional arrangements were provided in the 3rd reading of the 2011 Act at a cost of £1.1bn.

Tory MPs were the only ones to actually come up with costs based on the both the 2011 Act and the Waspi "ask".

6 options proposed by Owen Smith and not one costed out. 4 out of those 6 options were actually debated fully during the 2011 Act and all were defeated. One of the Tory MPs, Nadine Dorries, who yesterday voted Aye actually voted against those 4 options back in 2011. Seems she has changed her tune now but again provided no insight as to what she actually would propose.

If you think this is a waste of time wait until the real facts about the new "fixed rate" state pension emerge.

Well I have read both the green and white papers on the new state pension so I'm not really expecting any surprises.

jamesd

SallyG wrote: »

What happens next?

Hopefully the government continues to refuse to undo the reduction in the discrimination against men that the changes took care of. It's natural for those who were benefiting from discrimination to try to undo the changes or get compensation that maintains the discrimination.

The government could offer loans at student loan interest rates to all men and women within nine months of their state pension age, capped at their state pension income for those nine months, repayable over 15 years. Then those who really are poor enough to need protection could get it from the means tested benefit on the repayments. The rest would retain the option at their own ultimate expense to retire nine months sooner than they are currently entitled to.

Triumph13

But looking on the bright side, we haven't had this much fun since the Scottish Independence referendum!

mgdavid

SallyG wrote: »

What happens next?

nothing...

Pollycat

mgdavid wrote: »

nothing...

Or more of the 'same old, same old' - which amounts to the same thing, I guess.

Paul_Herring

Triumph13 wrote: »

But looking on the bright side, we haven't had this much fun since the Scottish Independence referendum!

Did they have twenty separate threads started by staff/officials as well? I must have missed them.

jem16 wrote: »

One of the Tory MPs, Nadine Dorries, who yesterday voted Aye actually voted against those 4 options back in 2011. Seems she has changed her tune now but again provided no insight as to what she actually would propose.

Who? Oh; I remember...

jem16

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Who? Oh; I remember...

This is her latest gem;

Equalisation of pension age shld happen when men have menopause Breast cancer, fibroids, hysterectomy stress incontinence and osteoporosis

https://twitter.com/nadinedorriesmp/status/702952836791975936

Pollycat

jem16 wrote: »

This is her latest gem;



https://twitter.com/nadinedorriesmp/status/702952836791975936

OMG!

She wants even more than the WASPI women! :rotfl:

Ah! She's the bimbo who went on 'I'm a Celebrity - get me out of here'.

Brings new meaning to the word 'celebrity.

Paul_Herring

Pollycat wrote: »

OMG!
Ah! She's the bimbo who went on 'I'm a Celebrity - get me out of here'.

Brings new meaning to the word 'celebrity.

Hence my current signature...

mystic_trev

This article sums it up nicely.

http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/02/richard-graham-labour-and-the-snp-will-break-their-promises-on-womens-pensions.html