Police stopped me.

NovaBlack_2

Conor wrote: »

Only a useless driver would need to do an emergency stop.

err yes.... a kid jumps out 5 metres front of me after a football from behind a parked car.. i do an emergency stop... that makes me useless...

sorry... next time what.. do i continue and hit them.. and then im not useless... right..

sorry just a bit confused by the logic here...




oh and i guess on your driving test they test you on your ability to perform an emergency stop because they like to know you CAN PERFORM ONE (else instant fail) , and therefore you are completely useless and fit to drive on the roads... again... logic slightly confused there

NovaBlack_2

Bokkens wrote: »

They had a attitude with the pair of you and your friends demonstration of poor driving because they are fed up to the gills with knocking on parents front doors at 0300hrs and telling them their beloved son or daughter is splattered all over a farmers wall and happened to injure or kill other innocent people passing by.
When you have cleaned up a few bodies you have no compunction in telling people like you the facts because people like you won't listen you have to be told.
Learn by you mistakes quickly or you will be on the next farmers wall,there's plenty of them in Wales.
Red is do not proceed.
Amber is stop.
Green is proceed with caution.

and whilst i understand their frustration, does it make it fair and right for officers to tar all drivers of a certain age with the same brush? i mean they are frustrated (understandably) at some drivers so therefore its ok to take it out on all drivers of that age no matter how helpful/polite/co-operative they are?

that was my experience (read my earlier post) from inside a parked car. And i can tell you now, that my attitude toward the police has gone right down the pan. all i can say is that before that incident i had them in my mind as heroes that did a great job. it was directly because of their attitude that my public perception of them isnt now a great one. surely it cant be right for police to be actively damaging public perception. they should work to build and re-inforce it, and perhaps i would see them as i once did.

amandada

Advocate wrote: »

We pay your wages, matey. The public are fully entitled to ask you why you're pulling them over instead of catching burglars. You're a public servant. Remember that.

WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I claim my point!!!! Wonder how many more times I'll hear this at work today when the person on the other end of the line doesn't like what they're hearing and can't come back with a better line!:rolleyes:

Lord_Lardington

The police force is a very large organisation and I guess the vast majority of us only ever interface to that force on rare occasions meaning that if we get a miserable get on that particular day we’ll judge the whole force to be “miserable gets”.

I have two totally different experiences of meeting the police, both traffic violations:-

Violation 1 – Using an access only road. I drove up a road that had recently been re-designated as a no access road (or something, I forget the details) and was waved down by a policeman. He told me about the violation for which I was apologetic but he, quite frankly, was clearly in love with the sound of his own voice and went on and on in a patronising way for 20 minutes before issuing a producer.

Violation 2 – Speeding on the M40. I was stopped by an unmarked police car for speeding (quite significantly I'm ashamed to say) and the 2 officers pointed out my transgression, made it clear that it “wasn’t on” but still managed to be civil, friendly and generally nice guys.

If I get stopped again for anything (bound to happen one day I guess) I’ll know what to expect … a person doing a difficult job who may or may not have had a bad day.

Steve_xx

Whether a police officer has had a good day or a bad day is irrelevant. Police are expected to be highly trained professionals and they are mandated to conduct their business in accordance with the law of the land, not their own interpretation of it. Similarly they have a duty to treat people with respect and dignity and it is not their option to treat anyone otherwise. Unfortunately there is good and bad in all walks, however, where police officers are concerned, it seems to me that there are too many of them that do enjoy the act of thoroughly humiliating the public. The result of this is that members of the public will develop a flagrant dislike of the police, and the police are wholly to blame for that.

melancholly

fbs_4800 wrote: »

I REALLY wish I hadn't started to read this thread but I have and now I must comment.

As per usual it's all turned into a 'bash the Police' exercise 'cos they have targets and they're all power hungry freaks and they don't care about people blah blah blah.:)

this thread managed to get into both the 'bash the Police' and 'cars versus HGVs' arguements pretty quickly..... i wonder if any thread has managed it on the first page?! (or if any of the posts from either side in either arguement has ever made someone change their mind..... my guess would be no!)

Volcano

NovaBlack wrote: »

err yes.... a kid jumps out 5 metres front of me after a football from behind a parked car.. i do an emergency stop... that makes me useless...

sorry... next time what.. do i continue and hit them.. and then im not useless... right..

sorry just a bit confused by the logic here...




oh and i guess on your driving test they test you on your ability to perform an emergency stop because they like to know you CAN PERFORM ONE (else instant fail) , and therefore you are completely useless and fit to drive on the roads... again... logic slightly confused there

Clearly (to most?) Conor's post was in reply to your statement:

"if you get through it quicker as it changes then you have less time to stop , therefore there is a higher chance you will decide (rightly) to keep going rather than risk an emergency stop"

So in this context, if a driver has to make an emergency stop simply because a traffic light changes colour, "useless" would be an overly generous description.

Bokkens

tomstickland wrote: »

What's the difference between
and
?


Practically speaking it is well known that the other lights will not change until the current lights are Red. Hence a Red light means stop. An Amber means that a Red is imminent, but if the vehicle cannot stop in time it'll be better to proceed.

Actually, the highway code makes this very clear.
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs01.htm


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NovaBlack_2

Volcano wrote: »

Clearly (to most?) Conor's post was in reply to your statement:

"if you get through it quicker as it changes then you have less time to stop , therefore there is a higher chance you will decide (rightly) to keep going rather than risk an emergency stop"

So in this context, if a driver has to make an emergency stop simply because a traffic light changes colour, "useless" would be an overly generous description.

lol im sorry im just so confused now... if i did an emergency stop at a light because it changes to amber, and i make the judgement call to stop .. im useless.... and if i go through the light as its on amber im also wrong.....

perhaps i should fire up the flux capacitor and call doc brown. then we can go back in time and stop the light from ever changing in the first place. or if i was driving the delorian i could just pull the nose up and fly, thus avoiding the traffic light altogether.

before_hollywood

some people have comtemptful attitudes to young people, especially those in cars- i get it now and i am 26 but look younger, they will carve you up cos they think 'he's only, 18, been driving 5 minutes his insurance is £2000 for a car like that' yeah right mate, 26, 1 month off 4 years and £400 actually.

some people think all road enforcement is a joke, personally i would have liked to have seen the police catch the little toerag who tried to drag me out of my car when i was stopped at traffic lights (maybe if they hadn't taken 3 hours to get to my house they might have had a better chance).

please can we stop the holier than thou attitude, op's mate was stopped, we don't know why cos we weren't there, police might have had chip on shoulder for all we know, they don't have halo's !!!!!!