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  • pappa_golf
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    however , if they have done the "back office" work and are the people that issued the NTK , with a value of £150 they are in deep water


    quote from BPA:


    a debt collection company can add on charges


    however as PCS are acting as agents of "scum and Co" , and are doing the back office and issuing the NTK , they are acting as PPC not debt recovery


    hence asking if there letter was the first correspondence
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  • beamerguy
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    PCS also known as debt recover plus are DEBT COLLECTORS
    they do the back office work for the low life

    they are NOT registered as a company that issues tickets

    Then we have to wait for the OP to explain further as to if the letter came from a PPC or a debt collector using the same name
  • pappa_golf
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    beamerguy wrote: »
    Then we have to wait for the OP to explain further as to if the letter came from a PPC or a debt collector using the same name




    "I have googled the Parking Collection Services and on their website it says they are a member of BPA and IPC however, on the letter it states IPC only




    if you read carefully , the ticket has come from a IPC registered company and is being followed up by PCS.
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  • Fruitcake
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    Lauren, as above we need some more information in order to help you.


    So, please give us,


    the name of the parking company that issued he NTK,


    the date of the alleged parking event,


    the date you received the NTK.


    Please also post up a redacted scan of the NTK/first letter you have received about this alleged event.


    Parking companies have been known to lie in court, doctor time stamps on photo' evidence, instructed their operators to deliberately target people visiting hospital onchology units, ticket people on public roads when they have no lawful authority to do so, fail to apply for planning permission for signs and cameras, and change the free parking time allowed in contravention of the original planning application, pursued disabled motorists to court in breach of their parking trade association's code of practice to name but a few.


    Hence you were asked why would anyone pay these speculative invoices since by doing so you would be perpetuating this scam and actively condoning its continuance.
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  • beamerguy
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    "I have googled the Parking Collection Services and on their website it says they are a member of BPA and IPC however, on the letter it states IPC only
    if you read carefully , the ticket has come from a IPC registered company and is being followed up by PCS.

    so lets wait for the OP to reply
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 14 February 2016 at 7:13PM
    We don't need to know much more, the next step is already stated in the NEWBIES thread when people get the first letter, whatever it is called.

    PCS issue Notice to Keeper or Owner letters on behalf of smaller PPCs and as the OP says, this is the first letter so I can't understand why this is confusing. This poster merely has their NTK so she appeals using the IPC version if the PPC is an IPC member.

    A PCS NTK is no different from any other but it would have been useful to have been told whether they have headed it up 'Notice to Keeper' or 'Notice to Owner'? We've covered this in depth before not that long ago. The former is PCS' bad POFA attempt and the letter is a non-POFA version sent too late.

    Won't matter if the PPC is a BPA member, the IPC version of appeal questions will be fine.

    Could do with knowing who the parking firm are though (it's on the NTK). A list of forum abbreviations you'll have seen already, in post #2 of 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST'.
    Why would I pay if it was on my screen? - Saves the hassle and stress of receiving countless letters that I'm sure will appear in the coming weeks!

    And it's naive idiots who just pay who perpetuate the scam against the next vulnerable victim...

    So who is the parking company named as the client on the Notice and is it a NTK or NTO? What was the gap in days, between parking event and this actually hitting your doormat?
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  • pappa_golf
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    edited 14 February 2016 at 7:18PM
    as this is a NTK , issued by PCS on behalf of PPC , they are breaking guidelines by asking for an excessive fee.


    if the PPC asked for £100 and PCS followed this up with begging letters for £150 then that is OK (?) however it is not acceptable for the original NTK to be set at £150.


    this one act on its own makes the situation a non POFa case now , and I think a complaint should be raised with the DVLA etc,


    non of the usual fob off , "a debt collector can ask what he wants" PCS in this case are NOT a debt collector they are the PPC


    the name of the originating PPC would be helpful
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  • Thank you everyone! Sorry for the delay, I've been in work all day.
    This is the very first letter (I definitely never had any idea about this so called parking fine before thursday 11/02/16 when this arrived!).

    They have said that the creditor is Millennium Door & Event Security Ltd (0681298). Apparently the date of issue was 18/12/15 and they send the notice 01/02/16 it only arrived thursday, 11/02/16?

    Letter has the logo PCS (Parking Collection Services) with header Notice to Keeper.

    Not sure if this info is much help? - Letter just states parking charge notice £150 and then goes on to say that they obtained my details from DVLA under reasonable cause request, my car was allegedly "parked in a manner where the driver attracted a parking charge brought to the driver's attention via signage and agreed to by the driver when the vehicle was parked on private land managed by our client Millienium Door & Event Security Ltd (the creditor)." My opportunity to pay the fine at a reduced rate has passed, no name of driver but sending the letter to me as it is my vehicle, if the charge remains after 28 days and no driver has been identified, credit has a right to recover the charge from me as keeper of vehicle and can pass on to their debt recovery company.
  • pappa_golf
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    as no ticket was placed on the car , this must be classed as an "ANPR" type ticket , however to invoke the POFa 2012 the NTK must be received by the "keeper" within 14 days


    you state that this letter is the first you know about this?
    you state that the supposed offence was on 18/12/15
    you state that the first communication by the PPC or there agents was received on 11/02/16.


    the company and there agents have not only failed to abide to POFa 2012 , by the timing of the letter , but they have asked for a figure that was not acceptable by the government when POFa2012 was introduced.


    now I know that Millenium are IPC , however PCS are BPA and have been reported before for this massive overcharge thing , anfd they have been reprimanded , perhaps another nail in there coffin might help
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  • They claim that they did place a ticket on the car, does this change things? - do you think I should ask for evidence?
    I have had one council parking fine and they stuck the fine to the windowsill so it couldn't just blow off. Surely they would have done the same (or should have).
    Offence was 17:53:22 18/12/15, date of letter issued: 01/02/16 and received 11/02/15.
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