UKPC, Court Claim Form

Redx

and they are not "fines" either , you really need to get up to speed on this technical jargon, so you can advise your mum and help her defend the claim against her (not against you as you are nowt to do with it)

your mum is the registered keeper (not registered driver)

your mum received 5 parking charge notices (invoices)

your mum is named on the court papers

your mum defends herself using the advice supplied above

notice a common theme here ??? ( ie:- your mum , not YOU)

moe123

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[FONT=&quot]IN THE XXXXXXXXX[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]COUNTY COURT CLAIM NO:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]BETWEEN:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]CLAIMANT[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Claimant[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]and[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]DRIVER[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Defendant[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]_________________________ _________________________ ___________________[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]PART 18 REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]_________________________ _________________________ ___________________[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][Note: “A Request should be concise and strictly confined to matters which are reasonably necessary and proportionate to enable the first party to prepare his own case or to understand the case he has to meet”][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]To: XXXXXXXXXX (claimant)[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Please answer the following questions:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]1. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]What is the basis of the claim. Is CLAIMANT making a claim as an agent of the landowner or is CLAIMANT making the claim as occupier in their own right? [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]2. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Is the amount claimed by CLAIMANT for a genuine pre estimate of loss for a breach of contract or a contractual sum? [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]3. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]If the contract has been conveyed by the use of signage on site, please provide copies of the signs on which you rely and confirm these are the signs in situ on the date of the event. Please also provide the date these signs were installed, for example, a works schedule, maintenance record or invoice for the work. [/FONT]

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• [FONT=&quot]Were there signs at the entrance to the site on the date in question? Did these meet the British Parking Association's Code of Practice Appendix B (Entrance signs) or the Independent Parking Committee’s Schedule 1 (Please indicate)[/FONT]

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• [FONT=&quot]How long was the alleged driver there for ? (duration of parking)[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]TAKE NOTICE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE ABOVE REQUEST WITHIN 14 DAYS OF SERVICE OF THE SAME UPON YOU.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I also require that answers to these questions be verified by a Statement of Truth by an authorised signatory of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]CLAIMANT[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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The driver is uncertain on how to get more information from the part 18.. any suggestions on what to add? Letters from UKPC had been ignored.. anything else i can add?

Redx

please stick to your original court thread

pm crabman and ask him to merge your 3 threads into one

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5409503

and

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5409435

please dont start any more new threads unless its a completely different parking ticket problem

moe123

I will not start anymore... and ive pmed crabman to merg the threads...
any advice on that part 18 above? any changes or submit

Crabman

Threads have been merged

Quentin

moe123 wrote: »

The court letter is not in my name.. does that make a difference ?

moe123 wrote: »

It is in my mothers name she is the named driver thats all..

If both these statements are correct (please advise us), then your mother is the defendant. So she should be corresponding to the court.


What is the relevance of your blue badge (Were you using the car each time the tickets were issued?)

moe123

Part 18 draft.. please inform me of any changes required before i submit it thank you
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[FONT=&quot]To: XXXXXXXXXX (claimant)[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Please answer the following questions:[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]What is the basis of the claim. Is CLAIMANT making a claim as an agent of the landowner or is CLAIMANT making the claim as occupier in their own right? [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]2. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Is the amount claimed by CLAIMANT for a genuine pre estimate of loss for a breach of contract or a contractual sum? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]If the contract has been conveyed by the use of signage on site, please provide copies of the signs on which you rely and confirm these are the signs in situ on the date of the event. Please also provide the date these signs were installed, for example, a works schedule, maintenance record or invoice for the work. [/FONT]

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• [FONT=&quot]Were there signs at the entrance to the site on the date in question? Did these meet the British Parking Association's Code of Practice Appendix B (Entrance signs) or the Independent Parking Committee’s Schedule 1 (Please indicate)[/FONT]

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• Copies of the PCN’s that UK Parking Control say were issued the times claimed with time stamped photos of the above.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

• Copies of any notices to keeper that UK Parking Control were sent to the registered keeper
  
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[FONT=&quot]TAKE NOTICE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE ABOVE REQUEST WITHIN 7 DAYS OF SERVICE OF THE SAME UPON YOU.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I also require that answers to these questions be verified by a Statement of Truth by an authorised signatory of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]CLAIMANT[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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moe123

She will be responding to them just to explain.. My mothers english isnt the best only reason im writing but she will be the one to defend it! The blue badge is in the registers owners name.. and another drive was using it when tickets were issued..

Quentin

moe123 wrote: »

She will be responding to them just to explain.. My mothers english isnt the best only reason im writing but she will be the one to defend it! The blue badge is in the registers owners name.. and another drive was using it when tickets were issued..

Still confusing us:


There is no such thing as "registered owner", Assuming you mean registered keeper (rk), then is your mother the rk?


You said the blue badge was yours previously. Now you say it is the "owners". Again, do you mean the registered keepers?


And now you say the blue badge was being used by another driver? Was it being used "illegally" by another driver?


If the other driver is disabled, please clarify all this (having a blue badge is irrelevant, though the car being drive by or with a disabled person in it as a passenger can be useful for the defence. (see #9)

moe123

Nothing illegal going on just confused thats all...
THE REGISTERED KEEPER and the BLUE BADGE is again the REGISTERED KEEPER! (mother)
The blue badge was not used by anyone illegally just wondering if it could be used to benefit the case at all!
The claim form and blue badge have the same name on it if thats what your asking!

I really do applogise for confusing you guys<3