We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum... Read More »
Debate House Prices
In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer
Comments
-
Interesting that genes from the male side should be such a good proxy but those from the female side aren't.
Perhaps you should think again.
On the whole, and we are talking generalisations, people tend to marry others with similar academic attainment. So, father's academic attainment is a reasonable proxy for the mother's.
The point is that these things are incredibly hard to disentangle. There was a whole issue a while back of parents hot housing their kids. Taking them to museums and having loads of books in the house, because they had heard that children do well academically who come from homes with lots of books and where museum visits are common. This ignored the point that it wasn't the books or museums that were important, but the genes of the parents who liked books and museums.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
spirit wrote:SC and GDB you were both facing/wanting change. Did it happen?
Yes and no. Yes in that the finances are sorted. No in that there is now a gap in my life that is unfilled.
Not sure what I posted previously, but my work finished (supplier stopped supplying - end of the road), couldn't find alternative niche product. Invested in a couple of very different BTLs. Got them up and running (one took more money, more time and far more hassle than planned, the other went like a dream). Now they are both being managed, so my work load has dropped and I need something to fill the gap.
I know I don't want the commitment of working fixed hours for someone else and I know I want something that I will enjoy rather than a means to an end. OH is keen that it doesn't impinge on us taking holidays (though his crazy work schedule is a bone of contention at the moment).vivatifosi wrote: »Spirit, what direction do you see your volunteering taking?
When I read your last post, straight away I thought of Citizens Advice as you are personable, practical, have a wealth of relevant experience and in some cases will have "walked the walk". If that is something you are interested in, it may be worth contacting early as it requires a lot of training and shadowing. I wondered if you could fit this round your rehab?
I thought of doing this.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
On the whole, and we are talking generalisations, people tend to marry others with similar academic attainment. So, father's academic attainment is a reasonable proxy for the mother's.
AIUI that is a pretty recent phenomenon.The point is that these things are incredibly hard to disentangle. There was a whole issue a while back of parents hot housing their kids. Taking them to museums and having loads of books in the house, because they had heard that children do well academically who come from homes with lots of books and where museum visits are common. This ignored the point that it wasn't the books or museums that were important, but the genes of the parents who liked books and museums.
Defo agree with all this. Wasn't it the Blair Govt that was going to give kids books because kids that grew up with books did better at school? People who own lots of books tend to be genuinely literate for a start which immediately strikes out the bottom 10%, give or take, of educational achievers.0 -
People usually marry people they mix with, which means education/wealth mostly as people hook up quite early.
Once they're at work they will then only meet people they work with, who will have the same education as them probably due to being in the same sort of job.
I could never, for example, meet a Doctor .... and, even if I did, our wealth separation would mean we've nothing to talk about as they'll have done expensive/posh things and I won't have, so our 'interests/activities' will be completely different. So, wealth dictates what you do/what you've seen and therefore what you are interested in and will talk about.
If I met a Doctor, they'd probably talk about travel, holidays, their gadgets .... things I know nothing about. He'd not be interested in the fact that I got some cheese topped rolls at Ldl
Also, even if I met one, I'd not be able to afford to date them. I couldn't afford to do the sort of things they'd want/expect to do on a date.0 -
Been a bit sorry for myself today. OH & I have been invited to a celebration arising from an event in Falmouth in 2014. I burst into tears. The event immediately preceded my stroke, and was the last time I was OK. It just hit home.
Finding life a bit tough at the moment because I am so bored. Day after day of "occupying" myself has run out of steam. Like most folk I have always been occupied and time poor. It will be helped when I am driving and independent but tricky to deal with now.
I was going shopping and meeting a NP in th capital tomorrow but cannot go now, as OH was escorting me on the train, he isnt going now, so I cant travel cant get to the station and need assistance getting on/off train.
It has helped just typing it, have looked at Moocs/hobbies etc but I am quite a sociable sort and need a purposeful existence. Have volunteer plans for the future, just want to get to that point now.
I'm afraid I don't have any suggestions, or none that won't have been thought of. I know I would struggle after two weeks to keep myself occupied. Like you, I've never had any desire to nose around my family history - mostly because I haven't bothered to keep in touch with family that live, so dead ones don't stand much of a chance!
Is it worth paying for someone once a week to come and take you out? It might not be a preferred solution, but it would get you out and doing something and provide money for someone who needs it.
Bugslet, I only buy locally bred meat because of my concerns for animal welfare. Where I fail is when I eat out and lose traceability. This means I eat fish or veggie when out. I wish there was more assurance about an ethical food chain including all essential livestock movements .
Widening the base of those who provide high welfare foodchain would ultimately make that the normal standard.
Could your industry benefit, not from you resisting this market ,but influencing it.
I started my working life in the defence industry. We sold to libya, iran, iraq sort of sitting on the fence and winding up both sides( early eighties).
Eating ethically when going out is always a nightmare and I gave up any effort. I worked on the premise that if I was doing as much as I could at home and taking food into work, the once or twice I eat out a week, would just have to be what it is. I don't like meat anyway, so that wasn't an issue at least.
Animal transport, or the little I know of it, has changed an awful lot over the past 20 years, with onboard watering systems and increased regulations on stopping intervals. It still seems illogical though that they are shipped so far. Animals are often shipped on the hoof to France because they prefer to slaughter themselves than accept hanging meat slaughtered in the UK.
It's not a trade I would want to get involved with and Bugs transport is too small to influence anything. I stick with being the best boss I can be and as legal as I can be.Reminds me of the saying: From riches to rags in three generations. The first generation in a family makes money (goes from rags to riches); the second generation holds or keeps the money; and the third generation squanders or loses the money (and so goes back to rags).
Was listening to a radio discussion yesterday that some research has shown that taller men and women and thinner women earn 12-17% more in the same job role.
One of the oldest companies in the UK ( I believe it's the second oldest but not sure ) is a haulage company, Shore Porters Society established in 1498. My main sub-contractor started in 1835. We are very arriviste having celebrated our 25th birthday last month.
I saw that research and then read that the riches drank the most,w hich confused me as when I drink, restraint flies out of the window:o.0 -
PasturesNew wrote: »People usually marry people they mix with, which means education/wealth mostly as people hook up quite early.
Once they're at work they will then only meet people they work with, who will have the same education as them probably due to being in the same sort of job.
I could never, for example, meet a Doctor .... and, even if I did, our wealth separation would mean we've nothing to talk about as they'll have done expensive/posh things and I won't have, so our 'interests/activities' will be completely different. So, wealth dictates what you do/what you've seen and therefore what you are interested in and will talk about.
If I met a Doctor, they'd probably talk about travel, holidays, their gadgets .... things I know nothing about. He'd not be interested in the fact that I got some cheese topped rolls at Ldl
Also, even if I met one, I'd not be able to afford to date them. I couldn't afford to do the sort of things they'd want/expect to do on a date.
Does that mean your ideal partner in life is a Lidl shelf stacker?No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Does that mean your ideal partner in life is a Lidl shelf stacker?
I know a PhD who is a shelf stacker (via a mate who is actually his friend). He used to be a security guard in a library but got fed up with the idiots he was working with.
On a positive note, PN could get a discount on instant mash and lollies.0 -
I know a PhD who is a shelf stacker (via a mate who is actually his friend). He used to be a security guard in a library but got fed up with the idiots he was working with.
On a positive note, PN could get a discount on instant mash and lollies.
They could hold hands, look into each other's eyes, and discuss the week's special offers.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Doozergirl wrote: »Because the overwhelming evidence is that the most influential factor on academic success is social class. Your exam results are determined by your postcode.
Better performing schools are more dependent on the social standing of their cohort than they are the quality of their teaching staff.
Sure, we all have different talents, and learn in different ways and some children will do better than others without having to work as hard, but everyone's liklihood of success is determined first by nuture.
However much I had been nurtured I could never have become Olympic 100m champion or an artist. However much effort DW puts into it she can not understand spacial maths concepts.
Of course with the correct nurture we can all acheive our maximum potential but that doesn't mean that we all have the same potential in every skill.I think....0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 351.4K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 453.8K Spending & Discounts
- 244.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 599.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.1K Life & Family
- 257.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards