Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

PasturesNew

I'll get round to getting a subscription at some point.... I just can't decide which to pay for.

FMP has more relevant records, and the newspapers (which I read just for fun by typing in random words and seeing what exciting and random stories I can discover). But ASC has trees that you can only access/ask for access once you're a member.

So I um and ah and um and ah - and can't decide. So do nothing.



I am 'suffering' from not being able to paw through the 1911 Census on this current bunch, although I've managed to get a good way through it using the LDS site, I can't actually see the households in their entirety, or see/spot small clues in mistranscriptions like you can with originals.

Spirit_2

I have really enjoyed the conversation on the thread today about ethics. Would have liked to thank most of it twice.

Bugslet, I only buy locally bred meat because of my concerns for animal welfare. Where I fail is when I eat out and lose traceability. This means I eat fish or veggie when out. I wish there was more assurance about an ethical food chain including all essential livestock movements .

Widening the base of those who provide high welfare foodchain would ultimately make that the normal standard.

Could your industry benefit, not from you resisting this market ,but influencing it.

I started my working life in the defence industry. We sold to libya, iran, iraq sort of sitting on the fence and winding up both sides( early eighties).

Spirit_2

Been a bit sorry for myself today. OH & I have been invited to a celebration arising from an event in Falmouth in 2014. I burst into tears. The event immediately preceded my stroke, and was the last time I was OK. It just hit home.

Finding life a bit tough at the moment because I am so bored. Day after day of "occupying" myself has run out of steam. Like most folk I have always been occupied and time poor. It will be helped when I am driving and independent but tricky to deal with now.

I was going shopping and meeting a NP in th capital tomorrow but cannot go now, as OH was escorting me on the train, he isnt going now, so I cant travel cant get to the station and need assistance getting on/off train.

It has helped just typing it, have looked at Moocs/hobbies etc but I am quite a sociable sort and need a purposeful existence. Have volunteer plans for the future, just want to get to that point now.

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

.... I am so bored. Day after day of "occupying" myself has run out of steam.

You should look at this family malarky. You can get obsessed, there are places to visit (if you've the time/money) in some instances. There are records offices to sit in when it's wet - and graveyards to visit when it's warm. You can even get obsessed with a village and use that as a reason to pick somewhere as your next weekend away.


But - it does make you cry .... er, a lot. When people die or bad things happen to them. And bad things happen - quite a lot. And, of course, they all die, so it's all quite sad really.

It's like a huge online game, but it's real. You need to have tenacity and logical thinking skills... sometimes stuff lands in your lap; sometimes people just end up on the chart as (DISAPPEARED) - but you know that one day you'll discover the next bit for them.... it's like a giant, real, mystery.... a Whodunnit, but it's real.

It's a like a huge great Nosey-Parker-Fest !

Generali

michaels wrote: »

I guess when you are that big and have that much money you cant just dump every company you dont like.

DQWD:

That is a part of it but also we have found that companies respond very well to engagement. A lot of the money that we have we give to other managers to run for us and they will be in companies we don't necessarily like so it is still in fund holders' interests to engage with them.

Often times, management don't even realise what they are doing is crap. For example, we have ways that we like to see CEOs get paid. We accept that they are going to earn a lot but that should be as a result of success not just by getting to the top. As a result by talking to us we can help them to adjust remuneration schemes in order that they can get better results.

In addition I suspect that to some extent we are seen as the voice of the investment community here. If the CEO of HSBC went on TV and voiced his opinion about the British banking industry then I think most people would think that would be likely to be close to an industry position. It's the same when we speak to companies.

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

Tax discs - will I get a letter? I think mine's due this month and it's already the 9th and had no letter. I applied online last year and it just turned up - but I'm sure I logged in with the letter in my hand.

I got a letter on Tuesday.

hjd

silvercar wrote: »

I got a letter on Tuesday.

So did I. Indeed. (message too short)

CKhalvashi

PasturesNew wrote: »

It looks at social mobility as a purpose for the programme.

Social mobility for me is being able to arrive 1500 miles away on a £20 flight, with nothing more than £100 in your pocket and being able to make a go of things.

Several people I know have been extremely successful in doing so, occasionally with minimum research before doing so.

They 'discovered' if you're born into wealth, 200 years later your descendants will probably still be wealthy; if not, your descendents will still be working class/etc.

Again, not necessarily.

Although being born into wealth does give you a lot more chances to meet influential people, which may give the headstart.

Equally important to remember is that I'm not from a wealthy background, and have been able to get where I am through hard work and going out the way to get the contacts needed to do it.

It's important to note that a lot of my industry contacts aren't/weren't wealthy at the time, too, and the purpouse of being in business has been to make a go of things without the support of the more dominant companies in the industry. Bear in mind that the big company we're contracting for are using us as we're cheaper than their old in house team, whilst also adding around a 25% margin to the cost base, largely through productivity and efficiency.

Generali

By far the biggest determinants of your income as an adult are:

1. Your father's education level
2. Your father's income

At an individual level other things matter but at a population level those things are hugely more important than anything else.

Spirit_2

PasturesNew wrote: »

You should look at this family malarky. You can get obsessed, there are places to visit (if you've the time/money) in some instances. There are records offices to sit in when it's wet - and graveyards to visit when it's warm. You can even get obsessed with a village and use that as a reason to pick somewhere as your next weekend away.



But - it does make you cry .... er, a lot. When people die or bad things happen to them. And bad things happen - quite a lot. And, of course, they all die, so it's all quite sad really.

It's like a huge online game, but it's real. You need to have tenacity and logical thinking skills... sometimes stuff lands in your lap; sometimes people just end up on the chart as (DISAPPEARED) - but you know that one day you'll discover the next bit for them.... it's like a giant, real, mystery.... a Whodunnit, but it's real.

It's a like a huge great Nosey-Parker-Fest !

I've been "occupying myself" for nigh on 10 years now .... I never get bored! Just skint

I dont have that sort of focus or diligence about historic records, tending to be more interested in the living and here & now. I am also almost without a nosey bone in my body. I will not pry or enquire to satisfy a personal interest, only when I believe I can assist or have a responsibility. No desire to poke about in the current pain of others or stir things within living memory.

I know from indiscreet whisperings my maternal grandparents had lived in interesting times however, it was not spoken of, and I am not consciously going to investigate.

It would not satisfy the sociable side of my nature. Don't get me wrong I have contact with others and personal goals in health and function it is the absence of shared goals and purpose. Not cut out for housework etc, nor for sitting on my bottom when I have the energy to do more.

SC and GDB you were both facing/wanting change. Did it happen?