Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

michaels

kabayiri wrote: »

Where does West Ham's deal to lease a fantastic new stadium for just £2.5m per annum sit on the FFP scale?

How has that gone down with the Spuds?

I was asking a friend about the Man City deal. He believes that the way it works is the council get a percentage of gate receipts of attendance above a set figure (something like 30K or so). The more they sell out, the better the council does.

Just the sort of deal a cash strapped local authority should be doing.

I can't understand how the West Ham deal could be legal under EU state aid rules.

Generali

michaels wrote: »

There was a piece about someone trying to come up with an analogy for Leicester winning the premier league in US sport and basically it was impossible as:
1) They don't have leagues with promotion / relegation
2) They have a structure with things like the worst performing teams getting first draft picks that are deliberately structured to even things out.

You could probably find an analogy in the Olympics: the Jamaican bob team winning gold perhaps or maybe a black man winning 4 gold medals at the Nazi Olympics and setting 3 world records in 45 minutes, one of which stood for almost 50 years.

Generali

michaels wrote: »

Just the sort of deal a cash strapped local authority should be doing.

I can't understand how the West Ham deal could be legal under EU state aid rules.

AIUI, it is legal because:

1. Seb Coe's ego
2. No serious other bid (#1 precluded the Spurs bid as the plan was to knock down the stadium and use it as a proper football arena).

Still when West Ham get relegated, which history tells us is just a matter of time, we can enjoy them trying to work out the best way to fit 3,000 fans in there when they play Rochdale on a Tuesday night in the LDV Trophy or whatever it's called these days.

GDB2222

Generali wrote: »

You could probably find an analogy in the Olympics: the Jamaican bob team winning gold perhaps or maybe a black man winning 4 gold medals at the Nazi Olympics and setting 3 world records in 45 minutes, one of which stood for almost 50 years.

Everyone knows vaguely about Jesse Owens, although I couldn't say how many medals he won. However, did the Jamaican bob team win gold?

kabayiri

i thought the first olympic stadium deal was :
- conversion cost = £140m
- lease = £15m per annum

how that became
- conversion cost = £270m
- lease = £2.5m

I do not know.

Way to go Karren!!! ( and the pron barons)

Generali

GDB2222 wrote: »

Everyone knows vaguely about Jesse Owens, although I couldn't say how many medals he won. However, did the Jamaican bob team win gold?

I highly recommend the book "In Black and White", a history !!! bio of Jesse Owens and some other bloke.

I used a confusing conjugation, it should have been if the bob team had won gold.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Except those people who've never heard of him
(him? her?)

He was the black geezer that won the long jump in a film you watched on TV when you were a kid.

He was an amazing man. He won 4 gold medals at the Munich Olympic games in front of Hitler (kinda) and set 3 world records in 45 minutes during the heats.

Hitler was told by the organisers of the Games that he could shake all the hands of all the winners or none of them but not just the German ones at which point he left. People say it was because Hitler didn't want to shake Owens's hand, something Owens denied.

In fact Owens went further and claimed that the Democratic President of the US was the only world leader that turned him away, Hitler just had other stuff to do so didn't want to hang about in the rain watching sports. (Owens was a keen Republican so I'd take the story with a pinch of salt).

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

Except those people who've never heard of him
(him? her?)

Mr G has heard of him. If you ask, Mr G will tell.

PasturesNew

Generali wrote: »

He was the black geezer that won the long jump in a film you watched on TV when you were a kid.

Back/edit: Cheeky fekkah ... the film was a 1938 documentary!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_(1938_film)

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

i thought the first olympic stadium deal was :
- conversion cost = £140m
- lease = £15m per annum

how that became
- conversion cost = £270m
- lease = £2.5m

I do not know.

Way to go Karren!!! ( and the pron barons)

I've always found the relationship between Spurs and West Ham fans very amusing. When I've seen the sides play at The Lane there's been this stream of vitriol from the away end. In fact the only time I've felt even vaguely in danger in a football ground was when Spurs went 1-0 up against West Ham about 15 years ago (Joe Cole was playing for the Irons which dates it!).

Spurs fans aren't really that fussed by the rivalry, it just isn't that important. No more than any other London club really (Palace perhaps or Wimbledon back in the day).

I quite like Ms Brady though after her altercation with Benni McCarthy.

For those that don't know the story, he came back from the summer looking rather overweight and they had a public falling out. He was thrown out of/quit the club and she described him as, "a big fat mistake" to which he responded that she was the devil with t! ts.

She had the last word, "At least I'm meant to have t! ts!!!".

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

I probably didn't see any such film. Doesn't sound like the sort of thing that'd have been on the telly in our house. Dad wasn't into running sports at all.

I then googled the film, to see if you were being cheeky (e.g. if the film were made/on in 1945 or something, hinting that I'm ancient).

Can't find the film mentioned. Google's all over one made in 2016.

Back/edit: Cheeky fekkah ... the film was a 1938 documentary!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_(1938_film)

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