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Cyclist hit and run
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AlanCarter wrote: »It is and it is higher than the starting point for any of the offences the driver in this case has committed.
failing to stop/failing to report is 5-10 points and upto £5000 with the possibility of a prison sentence.
Careless is 3-9 upto £2500 and possible disqualification, taking into account injury caused probably the higher end.
Dangerous- if they can make it stick- is disqualification
so you are technically correct. (s172 is fixed at 6 points, but they could have gone for £1000 fine)
Still looks like a good wheeze though, 6 points for s172 and the rest all go away.
I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....
(except air quality and Medical Science)0 -
failing to stop/failing to report is 5-10 points and upto £5000 with the possibility of a prison sentence.
Careless is 3-9 upto £2500 and possible disqualification, taking into account injury caused probably the higher end.
Dangerous- if they can make it stick- is disqualification
so you are technically correct. (s172 is fixed at 6 points, but they could have gone for £1000 fine)
Still looks like a good wheeze though, 6 points for s172 and the rest all go away.
I wouldn't bank on it, causing death by careless starts at 3 points, even when drugged up.0 -
Making things up again. You still haven't shown us your evidence from your previous post.sacsquacco wrote: »The Nottingham Police have come off the worst from this straightforward case and just dumped it. Mind you, thats what the Police do routinely nowadays with many crimes including burglary, they just dump it with no proper investigation .0 -
You say that like Cambridge's cycle friendly policy is something that is an aberration to be ignored rather than the model all other cities should adopt?
Or should we frown on somewhere that encourages and priorities healthy, environmentally friendly transport methods that cause less traffic congestion over motor vehicle use?
Cambridge is atypical because of it's student demographic. It's just like many of the top cycling cities on the continent (Groningen and Copenhagen) and North America (Davis and Portland) that are also university cities. Young single adults, well educated and on a tight budget, of course they are more likely to ride a bike and in fact many colleges ban students from keeping a car or motorbike in Cambridge.0 -
Making things up again. You still haven't shown us your evidence from your previous post.
Ok, a bit of a mix up on the cycle deaths but cyclists killed and seriously injured are up there along with motor cyclists. You keep rattling on about "evidence " as if you re a magistrate.The Policeman who was detailed to sort out a straightforward crime is the one person to ask about "evidence " because he did nt try very hard to sort out what at face value seems to be a straightforward crime of attempted maiming then fleeing the scene of the crime.
Try googling "Burglary; Now the Police give up/Daily Mail online " and lots of other stuff to prove just how bad the UK Police force have become. They re hopeless and getting worse every year and this incident is just one more example of many0 -
Cycle paths, where they are not segregated (ignoring the shared space ones for reasons stated above) are where all the crud and rubbish (like broken glass) end up including where post-accident debris ends up being swept - you cycle in them and end up with punctures galore. On the road we can easily avoid potholes. My route to work has about 10m of cycle lane (a farcical little patch) and nothing else so I have to be in the road when I am riding.
Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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sacsquacco wrote: »Ok, a bit of a mix up on the cycle deaths but cyclists killed and seriously injured are up there along with motor cyclists.
Nope, for the year ending September 2014 there were 3,500 KSI road cycling casualties and 5,490 KSI motorcycle casualties.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/401295/quarterly-estimates-jul-to-sep-2014.pdf [PDF file].
Do you want to have another go?0 -
sacsquacco wrote: »Ok, a bit of a mix up on the cycle deaths but cyclists killed and seriously injured are up there along with motor cyclists. You keep rattling on about "evidence " as if you re a magistrate.The Policeman who was detailed to sort out a straightforward crime is the one person to ask about "evidence " because he did nt try very hard to sort out what at face value seems to be a straightforward crime of attempted maiming then fleeing the scene of the crime.
Try googling "Burglary; Now the Police give up/Daily Mail online " and lots of other stuff to prove just how bad the UK Police force have become. They re hopeless and getting worse every year and this incident is just one more example of many
What straight forward crime is that other than something you have made up? We'd expect nothing else form a Daily Fail reader.0 -
Again, no they're not.sacsquacco wrote: »Ok, a bit of a mix up on the cycle deaths but cyclists killed and seriously injured are up there along with motor cyclists.
Maybe if you didn't make sensationalist statements with nothing to back them up I wouldn't need to. Do you work for the Daily Mail btwsacsquacco wrote: »You keep rattling on about "evidence " as if you re a magistrate.The Policeman who was detailed to sort out a straightforward crime is the one person to ask about "evidence " because he did nt try very hard to sort out what at face value seems to be a straightforward crime of attempted maiming then fleeing the scene of the crime 0 -
Why am I a Daily Mail reader ?, now you re just getting silly ! you re jumping to conclusions. I work in the seamy side of life a lot of the time and can see how the police force are now so understaffed and under funded that a lot of what people would consider a fairly important crime,burglary is now relegated many times into just a crime number without even a visit from the Police, unless the burglar has left blood at a the scene. The Police dont have the resources they did have to investigate every crime. This hit and run crime has been IMO quickly dumped and did nt get properly investigated..as the cyclist involved also seems to think.0
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