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Claim form from CCBC - Civil Enforcement

Afternoon all,

I received a PCN back in June 2013...
I drove into the car park and waited for 5 minutes for my girlfriend to come out of work.. without actually reading the poorly displayed signs.
Anyways i stupidly responded by letter saying that i was waiting in the car for 5 minutes and didn't park and leave the car intentionally without paying.
Long story short they responded saying i had to pay the charge obviously for not paying to stay in the car park, so after this i just ignored letters which kept coming through the door. (Bearing in mind i thought it wouldn't actually get followed up to how it has nearly 3 years later)

Now i have received a Claim Form form the CC Business Centre in Newcastle, which i wasnt actually expecting to happen. Obviously the last thing i would want is a CCJ at the age of 21 so i am seeking help to as what i should now do. I know i replied by letter saying what my actions were so does that mean im pretty much stuffed for admitting entering and waiting on this land?
I have gone past what use to be the car park many of times and it has actually now been brought by a housing development company and owned by them for a while.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated as it says i have 14 days to respond, also before anyone says it is stupid to ignore these letters.. Yes i have found that out now and also looking online at other peoples issues lol.

So yes, Thank you in advance if anyone can help.
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    You will only get a CCJ on your record if you lose in court and don't pay up in full within 30 days. (So don't just pay up cos your scared of having a ccj at 21!)


    Read up in the newbies faq at the top of the forum on how to go about your defence and extend the time to get your defence in to 28 days by simply responding to the claim by acknowledging its receipt.
  • Fruitcake
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    You can buy the Parking-Pranksters court guide via his web site. I'm told it is very cheap and very good.
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  • Redx
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    there is a section in the NEWBIES sticky thread at the top of the forum that is all about genuine court claims

    they usually come from Northampton or Salford but can come from county courts too
  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    With a short stay make the rejection of contract offer point 1.

    The defendant exited the vehicle as is required to read the signs after the open car park appeared to offer free parking, upon reading the signs the defendant became aware that this was a contractual offer and once aware as stated by the supreme court "Beavis vs Parking eye" that by leaving the car the contract would be created by performance the defendant decided against accepting and rejected the contractual offer and left the car park within the time required to read and decline the contract offer, only performance of the contract can create contract, in this case the contract was rejected immediately upon reading the contract.
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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    With a short stay make the rejection of contract offer point 1.

    The defendant exited the vehicle as is required to read the signs after the open car park appeared to offer free parking, upon reading the signs the defendant became aware that this was a contractual offer and once aware as stated by the supreme court "Beavis vs Parking eye" that by leaving the car the contract would be created by performance the defendant decided against accepting and rejected the contractual offer and left the car park within the time required to read and decline the contract offer, only performance of the contract can create contract, in this case the contract was rejected immediately upon reading the contract.
    Don't copy and paste this, OP!

    (Hardly relevant for the OP to be quoting the supreme court as his reason for leaving the car park without paying back in the middle of 2013)
  • Thanks for who has replied... I read the newbie bit but cannot see where it says what to after receiving a court claim?

    Yes didn't that case happen after 2013?
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    in addition read the section of the newbie thread that deals with court cases

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

    good luck

    Ralph:cool:
  • Redx
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    Sweeterman wrote: »
    Thanks for who has replied... I read the newbie bit but cannot see where it says what to after receiving a court claim?

    Yes didn't that case happen after 2013?

    post #1 after this part






    CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH, THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR TALKING AD INFINITUM ABOUT DEBT COLLECTOR LETTER CHAINS SO PLEASE SPARE US.



    SMALL CLAIM?
    START A NEW THREAD PLEASE.
    the Beavis case concluded after 3 court appearances, the last one being NOV 2015 in the Supreme Court, but his case started in early 2013 as well so they are both similar except Barry overstayed and PE pharm that free car park by paying for the privilege
  • Chances are im going to have to spend alot of time on here to help myself figure out a defence, i am useless at these sort of things. I dont even know points i can make to suggest a defence as i pretty much admitted to being at fault with a written letter...
  • Redx
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    edited 23 January 2016 at 7:11PM
    thats why you should look at that section we pointed you at , to see skeleton defences and other details, plus why you were pointed at parking pranksters court guide too, where he suggests various defences and options

    so yes, you need to spend the time and do the research , there are no "quick templates" for a court defence, as coupon-mad clearly states at the beginning of that court section

    ps :- they had 6 years to issue a court claim under the small claims court

    this started way back in 1973 so is about 43 years old as a system of taking people to court who allegedly owe you money , now usually known as an MCOL like from Northampton (the bulk handling centre)

    if you ignore the theatrics, you can see it daily on Judge Rinder
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