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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Presumably the developer thought they could get 5 million for them before they started building though?
    Obv. And now they'll just bank the unused land. Hope it's not too much of an eyesore.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    The Prime Minister herself has suggested Brexit will throw up a number of opportunities but it won't be plain sailing and there will be difficulties ahead.

    Bleeding obvious to most but a heresy to some of the Brexit acolytes.

    The question, as always, should be will it be worth it? This will remain unknown for years to come and may well never be answered. Of course, for some acolytes anything is worth it so they are in the blissful position of thinking they already know the answer.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    The Prime Minister herself has suggested Brexit will throw up a number of opportunities but it won't be plain sailing and there will be difficulties ahead.

    Bleeding obvious to most but a heresy to some of the Brexit acolytes.

    The question, as always, should be will it be worth it? This will remain unknown for years to come and may well never be answered. Of course, for some acolytes anything is worth it so they are in the blissful position of thinking they already know the answer.

    indeed it is true that the future is uncertain.
    it is true that the future won't be known for sure for some time
    it is also true that the alternative futures will never be known.

    Of course for people like you, that don't believe in the mutual benefits of trade but think trade is a political thing, you will never be comfortable with trade with all countries on a equal basis.
    The shock of dealing with non white, non christian, non european countries will probably always be difficult for you to come to terms with.
    Maybe you could make things easier for yourself by getting a book about Ricardo's theory of international trade so you can drop your obsession with tariff barriers and protectionism. Also maybe get a book on the US southern attititudes to racism and how some managed to overcome with instinctive feeling thet they were different from those 'N..' folk and you could slowly become more accepting.
    Although trade is about mutual advantage (that mean that BOTH parties gain profit) there is a moral dimension to treating all people of all colours and races on an equal footing.
    But take one step at a time and think about a few years to get used to these ideas.
  • Tromking
    Tromking Posts: 2,691 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    The Prime Minister herself has suggested Brexit will throw up a number of opportunities but it won't be plain sailing and there will be difficulties ahead.

    Bleeding obvious to most but a heresy to some of the Brexit acolytes.

    The question, as always, should be will it be worth it? This will remain unknown for years to come and may well never be answered. Of course, for some acolytes anything is worth it so they are in the blissful position of thinking they already know the answer.

    Speaking for myself, I'm happy that Brexit is the destination and am less worried about the machinations of the journey.
    The fact that my happy position inadvertently winds up millions of Remainiacs is an absolute joy.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    Tromking wrote: »
    Speaking for myself, I'm happy that Brexit is the destination and am less worried about the machinations of the journey.
    The fact that my happy position inadvertently winds up millions of Remainiacs is an absolute joy.

    These people have nothing left to do except complain about the motives of brexit voters.

    We should applaud their commitment to the cause and then ignore them while the rest of us (leave and remain voters alike) get on with making things work for the future.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Tromking wrote: »
    Speaking for myself, I'm happy that Brexit is the destination and am less worried about the machinations of the journey.
    The fact that my happy position inadvertently winds up millions of Remainiacs is an absolute joy.

    I understand that position but would suggest you think it's worth it already because as long as we leave the EU you don't much care about anything else.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    indeed it is true that the future is uncertain.
    it is true that the future won't be known for sure for some time
    it is also true that the alternative futures will never be known.

    Of course for people like you, that don't believe in the mutual benefits of trade but think trade is a political thing, you will never be comfortable with trade with all countries on a equal basis.
    The shock of dealing with non white, non christian, non european countries will probably always be difficult for you to come to terms with.
    Maybe you could make things easier for yourself by getting a book about Ricardo's theory of international trade so you can drop your obsession with tariff barriers and protectionism. Also maybe get a book on the US southern attititudes to racism and how some managed to overcome with instinctive feeling thet they were different from those 'N..' folk and you could slowly become more accepting.
    Although trade is about mutual advantage (that mean that BOTH parties gain profit) there is a moral dimension to treating all people of all colours and races on an equal footing.
    But take one step at a time and think about a few years to get used to these ideas.

    Before you turned into an acolyte you occasionally had something to say.

    You've built a narrative about what I think that is true only in your cluttered mind.

    I doubt you give a monkeys about some of the supposed benefits of Brexit expressed in your post but, if you're genuine, you'll be disappointed because Brexit will make little difference.

    If anything I expect the UK to become more insular and nationalistic. And bland. And xenophobic.
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Japan issues a warning to the UK about the consequences of leaving the single market:
    The lengthy document from Tokyo gives a list of possible consequences of Brexit and a series of specific requests from Japanese businesses. About half of Japanese investment in the EU comes to the UK, including from companies such as Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Nomura and Daiwa.

    “Japanese businesses with their European headquarters in the UK may decide to transfer their head-office function to continental Europe if EU laws cease to be applicable in the UK after its withdrawal,” the report concludes.

    It says: “In light of the fact that a number of Japanese businesses, invited by the government in some cases, have invested actively to the UK, which was seen to be a gateway to Europe, and have established value-chains across Europe, we strongly request that the UK will consider this fact seriously and respond in a responsible manner to minimise any harmful effects on these businesses.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/04/g20-theresa-may-warns-of-tough-times-for-uk-economy-after-brexit
  • Tromking
    Tromking Posts: 2,691 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    I understand that position but would suggest you think it's worth it already because as long as we leave the EU you don't much care about anything else.

    Give me an example of something I don't care about as it pertains to Brexit, and I might be able to help you.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Tromking wrote: »
    Speaking for myself, I'm happy that Brexit is the destination and am less worried about the machinations of the journey.
    The fact that my happy position inadvertently winds up millions of Remainiacs is an absolute joy.

    Why? Why do dislike the EU so vehemently that is sounds as though you'd be willing to sacrifice your quality of life (and mine) in order to not be associated with it? And why do you take enjoyment in winding up your fellow citizens?
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