If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

I'm mocking you.

I guess that's a lot easier that justifying your racist views.

Rinoa

Immediately after the referendum Bloomberg surveyed city economists on when the the UK would be in recession. Nearly half said this year.

Any remoaners out there still agree with them?

TrickyTree83

Rinoa wrote: »

Immediately after the referendum Bloomberg surveyed city economists on when the the UK would be in recession. Nearly half said this year.

Any remoaners out there still agree with them?

Where was option 4 of 'No Recession'?

Talk about loading the question.

setmefree2

The case for a U.S.-U.K. free trade deal

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-case-for-a-u.s.-u.k.-free-trade-deal/article/2600713

gfplux

wotsthat wrote: »

It doesn't have a pro-EU bias. In some detail however it does highlight the difficulties that lie ahead.

As soon as you start to feel comfortable that the government are really going to take us out of the EU you might be able to relax and acknowledge it's not going to be plain sailing.

Brexit means brexit - you guys need to chill.

I agree, it is a working document illustrating the various issues that have to be addressed.
I would have thought it to be of interest to all posters on this thread.
Of course those people who wear tin foil hats will find conspiracies everywhere.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

I agree, it is a working document illustrating the various issues that have to be addressed.
I would have thought it to be of interest to all posters on this thread.
Of course those people who wear tin foil hats will find conspiracies everywhere.

lets just take a neutral uncontentious paragrph about transport

Transport

On transport, it is far too early to say what impact Brexit will have on aviation, shipping, public transport including rail and bus, and road haulage. Much will hinge on whether the UK remains a part of the EEA or whether it concludes bilateral treaties which oblige it to apply much of the current framework as regards single transport markets (such as Switzerland has). More generally transport prices may be affected by the general economic impact of Brexit – for example if inflation rises so will rail fares; and if the economy experiences a downturn big expensive infrastructure projects might be more difficult to finance.

so nothing wrong with that at all, is there.

lets just consider the two 'examples'
-one about rising inflation will cause fares to rise : well yes but that is EXACTLY the same in a 'remain' scenerio so why mention it.

-the comment about if the economy experiences a downturn (i.e. bad news) could just as well have said what would happen if the economy had a upturn (pro brexit news).

its the unconscious bias in all the economists and commentories that is so predictable.

gfplux

Chathemhouse have published an article.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/twt/preparing-uks-brexit-negotiation
It's a long read but here is the first paragraph.

"Theresa May, the new British prime minister, faces a central challenge in deciding the UK’s next steps towards the EU. On the one hand, a clear majority of the British electorate voted in the 23 June referendum for Britain to leave the EU. She has no choice but to follow through on the result. On the other, Leave supporters did not vote for a specific version of Brexit. Alongside the many who were determined to free the country from the costs and constraints of EU membership, the majority included an anti-austerity and anti-globalization protest vote and those with a vision of a buccaneering ‘global Britain’. - See more at:"

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/twt/preparing-uks-brexit-negotiation#sthash.vnQLUrgW.dpuf

Those wearing tin foil hats will also think this is biased, why, don't ask me, ask the crazy one.

Why can't we all except that these papers from various "think tanks" all add to our collective knowledge and help us understand how to move forward.
Those saying that it is bias to suggest that the process of Brexit will be complicated are insulting those that will have to do the negotiating.

wotsthat

It really is about time the government stated their aims for Brexit. I was very impressed with the way they expedited the leadership campaign but it's simply not good enough that two months after the referendum we're no closer to knowing what the government wish to achieve.

If reports suggesting the process will be anything less than a doddle we really should be further ahead.

Eric_the_half_a_bee

wotsthat wrote: »

It really is about time the government stated their aims for Brexit. .

They have stated their aims very clearly: the best possible terms for trade while retaining control over immigration.

I think what you mean is, you want them to state their negotiation tactics publicly. That would be incredibly foolish.

Conrad

gfplux wrote: »

Chathemhouse have published an article.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/twt/preparing-uks-brexit-negotiation
It's a long read but here is the first paragraph.

"Theresa May, the new British prime minister, faces a central challenge in deciding the UK’s next steps towards the EU. On the one hand, a clear majority of the British electorate voted in the 23 June referendum for Britain to leave the EU. She has no choice but to follow through on the result. On the other, Leave supporters did not vote for a specific version of Brexit. Alongside the many who were determined to free the country from the costs and constraints of EU membership, the majority included an anti-austerity and anti-globalization protest vote and those with a vision of a buccaneering ‘global Britain’. - See more at:"

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/twt/preparing-uks-brexit-negotiation#sthash.vnQLUrgW.dpuf

Those wearing tin foil hats will also think this is biased, why, don't ask me, ask the crazy one.

Why can't we all except that these papers from various "think tanks" all add to our collective knowledge and help us understand how to move forward.
Those saying that it is bias to suggest that the process of Brexit will be complicated are insulting those that will have to do the negotiating.

No leaving the EU is not complicated. Whilst examining each EU law and deciding whether to amend or keep it will take years, that's not an issue as we just carry on with those laws until such time we see fit to amend, but in the meantime trade goes on, almost certainly tarif free, nowt to worry about

Civil servants and think tanks revel in making things seem complex