If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

indeed it is true that Labour, the LibDems and the political pro-EU elite do have a lot of scope to make a mess of a great opportunity.
We will have to be vigilant.

What exactly would be the mechanism whereby the Lib Dems or Labour could mess this up? They're spectators the same as the rest of us don't you think?

This is all on the Tories and they, if not the country, are in the fortunate position that there's no credible alternative if they mess it up.

setmefree2

Brexit affords Nigeria opportunity for closer bilateral ties with UK

http://www.nigeriatoday.ng/2016/08/brexit-affords-nigeria-opportunity-for-closer-bilateral-ties-with-uk/

Thrugelmir

wotsthat wrote: »

A few short weeks ago the Germans ruled Europe and whatever they said went. Now it's all so difficult and complicated.

What changed?

Nothing in particular. Life within the boundaries of the EU isn't getting any easier. Dictating policy to others may become increasingly more difficult. Employment still remains unchanged at over 10%. With the UK closing it's borders. The rate may well rise higher in the future.

Eire received a huge EU bail out. Will be a kick in the teeth if they then decide to appeal the Apple tax issue. Will show once again that when push comes to shove. Self interest rules. The united front is a facade.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Theresa May, taken from a quote in Huffpost which they attribute to Sky News:
"We must continue to be very clear that “Brexit means Brexit”, that we’re going to make a success of it. That means there’s no second referendum; no attempts to sort of stay in the EU by the back door; that we're actually going to deliver on this."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-rules-out-second-eu-referendum-as-cabinet-meets-to-discuss-brexit_uk_57c6bd06e4b09f5b5e34cf76?utm_hp_ref=uk#

wotsthat

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Nothing in particular. Life within the boundaries of the EU isn't getting any easier. Dictating policy to others may become increasingly more difficult. Employment still remains unchanged at over 10%. With the UK closing it's borders. The rate may well rise higher in the future.

Oh right. So all the bumf about Germany being in charge of Europe during the referendum was a load of cobblers?

That's a bit of a blow for getting a sweet deal because I thought a positive of that would be we could just negotiate with the organ grinder rather than the monkeys.

At least the message about the potential for bad things to happen is consistent.

ern1984

It happens that in a few years we become poor

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

Oh right. So all the bumf about Germany being in charge of Europe during the referendum was a load of cobblers?

That's a bit of a blow for getting a sweet deal because I thought a positive of that would be we could just negotiate with the organ grinder rather than the monkeys.

At least the message about the potential for bad things to happen is consistent.

See your whole outlook is premised on the notion of we as subservient to the EU master.

WE will agree European nations can continue to access our lucrative market, our fishing waters, benefit from our superior intelligence and military and far more besides. We can offer all this without the imposition of tariffs and barriers and I see no chance the EU will wish to hamper all this.

Start thinking a bit more potently, we aren't dog to be handed crumbs.

FACT a decent trade deal will be sculpted, and we as free agents can then make the most of global opportunities with customs union rules and costs getting in the way

I go right back to my first postings a few years back, it all comes down to self confidence and a rounded 360 view of our place in the world, there's no need to be scared or impotent

gfplux

The House of Commons Library has published a 180 page assessment of the possible impact of Brexit. Access to the EHIC health programme, trade and education are some of the topics covered.

I have only read the executive summary.

Link here
http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7213

It is a lot of opinions but does show how complicated the whole affair is.

This is food for all sides as it sets out all the issues that have to be addressed.

Thrugelmir

wotsthat wrote: »

Oh right. So all the bumf about Germany being in charge of Europe during the referendum was a load of cobblers?

Germany currently has a significant voice in Merkel at the head table of the EU. As I've also said on several occasions Merkel isn't popular at home. Everything is a shade of grey not black and white. As people like to suggest.

mwpt

Conrad wrote: »

See your whole outlook is premised on the notion of we as subservient to the EU master.

WE will agree European nations can continue to access our lucrative market, our fishing waters, benefit from our superior intelligence and military and far more besides. We can offer all this without the imposition of tariffs and barriers and I see no chance the EU will wish to hamper all this.

Start thinking a bit more potently, we aren't dog to be handed crumbs.

FACT a decent trade deal will be sculpted, and we as free agents can then make the most of global opportunities with customs union rules and costs getting in the way

I go right back to my first postings a few years back, it all comes down to self confidence and a rounded 360 view of our place in the world, there's no need to be scared or impotent

I don't understand what you are basing this opinion on. The power of belief?

Do you see access to the single market (including the so called passporting system) as unimportant? If so, what are you basing that opinion on?

If not, how do you reconcile a view that the EU will grant us a better deal outside the EU than inside putting itself at risk of further breakup?