If we vote for Brexit what happens

Crashy_Time

Harper123 wrote: »

I think I've had as much amusement as I can from this forum now. There's only so many times you can read the same post by the same person.I'm off to buy my next home and get on with my life.

See you in a couple of years Crashy and co when it will be a bit like when you've just finished a book. You need to wait a while before you can enjoy reading the exact same thing again.

Sure, see you in about 15 minutes then....:rotfl: Not sure what is funny about the German/Italian banking issues, but Hey Ho it takes all kinds I suppose. Really glad I don`t need to get a set price to pay off mortgage debt just now.

ukcarper

Crashy_Time wrote: »

For what it is worth I think the next psychological milestones in the Bear V Bull or debtor V prudent stakes will be when we officially trigger the clauses that take us away from the grip of EU control, and the Italian banks problem starting to spiral. Very interesting times indeed. People who own large decent houses would be just as well keeping them for life, and accepting that the "value" is likely to drop, run of the mill stuff that has been bought for BTL, unless you own outright or tiny mortgage, IMO needs to be dropped in price until you get rid, or it will be regretted later, just my IMO of course.

And we all know what the opinion of a crashaholic who has been calling a crash you years and is still waiting for it to happen is worth.

How far do you expect prices to fall do be shy tell us.

CLAPTON

danothy wrote: »

I suggest that you review your personal definitions of "racist", "hypocritical", and "irrational" that appear to be literally the exact opposite of what those words mean.

I can easily see why you think that discriminating against the entire world except for the 28 countries of the EU fits your principles.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

The EU freedom of movement is clearly a 100% racist policy.

Wanting to treat all foreigners with equal contempt doesn't exactly give you much of of a platform to lecture from.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Wanting to treat all foreigners with equal contempt doesn't exactly give you much of of a platform to lecture from.

As I understand it, you don't believe in treating everyone in the world the exactly same as the people of the UK

TrickyTree83

wotsthat wrote: »

Wanting to treat all foreigners with equal contempt doesn't exactly give you much of of a platform to lecture from.

If that were the case (and I don't think the general populace feels that way) it wouldn't be discriminatory. It would in fact be a discrimination neutral immigration policy as all foreigners would be treated by the same rules.

It could be said that having an immigration policy discriminates against people who don't live here, and that a points system would discriminate against the poorly educated, how far do you take the idea of discrimination before it becomes stupid?

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

If that were the case (and I don't think the general populace feels that way) it wouldn't be discriminatory. It would in fact be a discrimination neutral immigration policy as all foreigners would be treated by the same rules.

It could be said that having an immigration policy discriminates against people who don't live here, and that a points system would discriminate against the poorly educated, how far do you take the idea of discrimination before it becomes stupid?

I get the argument.

It becomes stupid when people start saying EU freedom of movement is 100% racist and anyone who doesn't condemn it becomes a racist, hypocrite etc on a technicality.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

As I understand it, you don't believe in treating everyone in the world the exactly same as the people of the UK

That's correct. I hope this information helps you continue work on your ever more weird and elaborate 'haha you're a bigger racist than me' constructs.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

I get the argument.

It becomes stupid when people start saying EU freedom of movement is 100% racist and anyone who doesn't condemn it becomes a racist, hypocrite etc on a technicality.

the EU freedom of movement is massively discriminatory but if you wish to nit pick
which percentage would you have chosen?

DollarSaver

danothy wrote: »

If the decision is made to end freedom of movement between the UK and the EU then I hope the UK stands fully by its chosen principles and also restricts movement of people between constituencies within the UK, requiring people to have a visa or similar in order to travel into an area that they are not registered to vote in and have not had voting influence over.

Not to mention loss of freedom of movement for U.K. migrants in E.U. countries. Imagine the burden of all those pensioners coming back to the U.K. on our services.

I wonder if the unemployed are going to migrate to the crop fields come harvest time ? The farmers will need all the help they can get when their E.U. subsidies vanish. Enjoy. I heard Lincolnshire is nice at this time of year.

And the cafes, hotel receptions, car wash facilities, Yodel and Hermes jobs if we restrict people from the E.U. ?

That is before we mention the total disaster that awaits the NHS which incidentally seems not to be going to benefit from the fantasy figures dreamed up by the dumbfounded that we won leave campaign.

Let's consider for a moment.... people get booted out and living standards drop. Who is next on the blame list ? Unemployed people ? The disabled people ? Ethnic minorities ? Women? Children who are not working ? Where does it end ? You see this is the cat now out of the bag, further responsibilities for the Brexit camp to shoulder.

Don't think a brain drain from commonwealth/third world countries is on higher moral ground that the E.U. freedom of movement for medical staff either. Picking the well educated and medical professionals from such places leaving those behind to suffer the fate of a depleted medical staffing, hardly an act of benevolence.

Rather you than me, when it comes my conscience will be clear.:money: