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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Myth busting article about leave voters. The headlines were:
    “Those with no formal education are twice as likely to vote leave at those with university degree/in education”
    So how many leave voters had no formal education? Just 1%. So 99% of leave voters were misrepresented.

    Similar myths of old v young are also busted.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/07/gary-bennett-stop-blaming-the-old-and-the-ignorant-for-brexit-the-statistics-just-dont-support-these-myths.html
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Myth busting article about leave voters. The headlines were:

    So how many leave voters had no formal education? Just 1%. So 99% of leave voters were misrepresented.

    Similar myths of old v young are also busted.

    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/07/gary-bennett-stop-blaming-the-old-and-the-ignorant-for-brexit-the-statistics-just-dont-support-these-myths.html

    errr. No myths have been busted. His own figures show the better educated voted remain.

    He's making a non-point about how the miniscule number of people in the UK with no formal education voted to distract from what's staring him in his face.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    errr. No myths have been busted. His own figures show the better educated voted remain.

    He's making a non-point about how the miniscule number of people in the UK with no formal education voted to distract from what's staring him in his face.

    the figures showed that people will little experience of life or anything and no responsibilities tended to vote remain.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    errr. No myths have been busted. His own figures show the better educated voted remain.

    He's making a non-point about how the miniscule number of people in the UK with no formal education voted to distract from what's staring him in his face.

    That's a bit misleading.

    A fairer statement would be - more people who participated in higher education and attained qualifications from HE voted to remain.

    It doesn't talk about the quality of that HE qualification. It's also quite right that HE qualification is not an undeniable indicator of intelligence or IQ. How difficult would it be to obtain a PhD in Physics versus a PhD in Media Studies?

    It is not as clear cut as HE participants are more intelligent, voted remain, therefore intelligent people voted to remain in the EU. Personally I've met some intellectually challenged people who have attained degrees from university, these days it would appear the standards have dropped.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the figures showed that people will little experience of life or anything and no responsibilities tended to vote remain.

    As did the well educated, management and professional classes.

    As it happens though the age cut-off for having a majority of remain voters was around 42. So not just the young....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    As did the well educated, management and professional classes.

    As it happens though the age cut-off for having a majority of remain voters was around 42. So not just the young....

    yes, there were a range of people that voted both ways.
    whatever one's point of view, one can still note that if the 'young' vote for something and the 'old' vote for something else, then it is mathematical certainty than more people with uni degrees with vote for the former something than the latter.
    not everyone knows that.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,048 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the figures showed that people will little experience of life or anything and no responsibilities tended to vote remain.

    Can you point me to these figures? They don't seem to stack up with what I've seen.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Can you point me to these figures? They don't seem to stack up with what I've seen.

    young people, especially those still at university tend to have little experience of working, bring up children, taking responsibility, having to make difficult choices either in the work place or in general life, have experienced few changes of government or economic fashions etc.
    older people tend to have had a lot of experience.
    the figures are freely available : must have been posted on these boards hundreds of time but otherwise internet search engines are your friend.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Can you point me to these figures? They don't seem to stack up with what I've seen.

    I think it was in that article that voters still in full time education overwhelmingly voted to remain. That's probably where he's pointing that finger. Could be wrong though.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Taylor Wimpey share price shoots up almost six per cent at the open as building firm says it has not been affected by Brexit
    http://www.cityam.com/246273/taylor-wimpey-share-price-shoots-up-6-per-cent-open
    Rightmove's shares jumped 7.3 per cent to 4,068p in early trading.

    http://www.cityam.com/246281/rightmoves-shares-just-jumped-after-reported-record-mobile
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