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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • chaostheory
    chaostheory Posts: 81 Forumite
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Step away from the Daily Mail.

    So at what point does net migration become a problem??? Apparently you think half a million a year is not a problem???? What about a million???
  • System
    System Posts: 178,371 Community Admin
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    Apparently you think half a million a year is not a problem????

    Oh I missed that post.
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  • chaostheory
    chaostheory Posts: 81 Forumite
    cells wrote: »
    'all that' is mostly fantasy and wrong
    • Long term unemployment (>52 weeks) in the UK is about 1%
    • Low skilled migration pushes the locals up the skill and pay scale not down
    • Net EU migration year end to 2015 was 184,000 not 500,000
    • High house prices do not impact 75% of households who either own or are in social homes. High house prices also mean higher taxes paid by the home owners so the foreigner buying a £10m house in kensington hands over close to £1.5 million in stamp duty
    • Housing build rates are a domestic issue the UK could build 400,000 units a year but chooses to build 150,000 a year

    BUT that is reality - the UK can't build houses and yet you still insist we can accommodate net migration levels in the hundreds of thousands.

    You have to deal with reality not fiction.

    You are deluded.
  • System
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    nkomp18 wrote: »
    This just in at BBC:

    Brexit causes dramatic drop in UK economy, data suggests

    Britain's decision to leave the EU has led to a "dramatic deterioration" in economic activity, not seen since the aftermath of the financial crisis.

    BBC news article here

    Oh noes! All those scaremongers were right

    What's the word for the situation where people who voted leave are put first in the queue for redundancies and pay cuts?

    I have my eye on a few people here. Only fair they take what they voted for ;)
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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    BUT that is reality - the UK can't build houses and yet you still insist we can accommodate net migration levels in the hundreds of thousands.

    You have to deal with reality not fiction.

    You are deluded.


    Which law of physics is stopping people in the UK from gluing more bricks together?

    Even if you took your defeatist stance the 150,000 new builds lived in at 2.5 persons per home equals the ability to house +375,000 annually. And the new build rate has generally been increasing over the last five years
  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    What's the word for the situation where people who voted leave are put first in the queue for redundancies and pay cuts?

    I have my eye on a few people here. Only fair they take what they voted for ;)
    Let me think, no pay rise for past 8 years and my company has been moving new jobs to the far Eastern reaches of EU for years already.
    What's actually changed?
  • chaostheory
    chaostheory Posts: 81 Forumite
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Oh I missed that post.

    You are arguing as if there weren't any risks in staying in the EU. You don't know what levels net migration could have reached in the future and what problems we would have faced as a consequence.

    Remainers never faced up to the problems of migration they just buried their heads in the sand.
  • chaostheory
    chaostheory Posts: 81 Forumite
    cells wrote: »
    Which law of physics is stopping people in the UK from gluing more bricks together?

    British House builders don't build houses - they are known as Land Bankers by investors not house builders. They make money sitting on land and governments never do anything about this fact.

    So we have to deal with reality which is that we have house builders who don't build houses and an EU which doesn't care about levels of migration in the UK - and that's why people voted out.
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
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    You are arguing as if there weren't any risks in staying in the EU. You don't know what levels net migration could have reached in the future and what problems we would have faced as a consequence.

    Remainers never faced up to the problems of migration they just buried their heads in the sand.

    Given you're clearly very obsessed with migration, are you aware there is more net migration from outside the EU than within the EU?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    Which law of physics is stopping people in the UK from gluing more bricks together?

    Even if you took your defeatist stance the 150,000 new builds lived in at 2.5 persons per home equals the ability to house +375,000 annually. And the new build rate has generally been increasing over the last five years

    absolutley right
    so lets stop all immigration and build (say) 3 million houses and then we can review the situation
    and during this time we can see how we get on trading with the rest of the world
    and of course can get rid of the EU nonsense rules
    and of course make our own laws


    if after this maybe a new refenendum to see how people feel about going back to the EU
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