If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

So what?

As with any battle or revolution. Events reveal themselves, plans are debated and thrashed out until we're ready for d day

We will fare far better in control of our own ship with a global face and doing our deals to suit us

I have no need whatsoever of old clueless men in Brussels

Let me know when you run out of analogies and sound bites and we can have a proper conversation.

Spiv_2

Conrad wrote: »

The denial amongst the gloom brigade has gone hyperbolic accross tinternet as the latest meme is to say the three muskateers will be put in thier place and sent back empty handed from the EU

What will be the excuse of the gloom brigade when we do indeed get a workable decent EU trade deal (not that we particularly need one anyway)?

Was out to dinner with 4 Remains friends who were almost hyperventilating with anger over Brexit - calling all the Leavers thick and uninformed - when I scratched the surface it was actually they who were thick and uninformed - that's why they find it so frightening.....They haven't followed the debate at all -all they've absorbed is "project fear"..... they have no clue to what actually is going on so they are bewildered....

Spiv_2

Housing market 'falters amid Brexit campaign and vote'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36783938

More good news.

Spiv_2

David Davis: Trade deals. Tax cuts. And taking time before triggering Article 50. A Brexit economic strategy for Britain

Economic growth in the UK has been founded on a number of unhealthy characteristics in the last decade or so. It has depended above all on large population increases based on uncontrolled mass migration. This has made the economy bigger, but not necessarily better for individual citizens, as shown by GDP per capita growth rates of two per cent or less – significantly weaker than in most decades since the Second World War. It has depended on moving a large number of people moving out of unemployment, which is good, but because the new jobs tend to be low paid it created a low productivity economy. And it all depends far too much on domestic demand, which even after 2008 is excessively funded by consumer credit. This is unsustainable in the long run.
So we need to shift our economy towards a more export-led growth strategy, based on higher productivity employment. Fortunately, this will prove eminently possible as a part of a Brexit-based economic strategy. Indeed, far from being the risky option that many have claimed, Brexit gives us many tools to deal with the very serious economic challenges that the country will face in the coming decades

http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/07/david-davis-trade-deals-tax-cuts-and-taking-time-before-triggering-article-50-a-brexit-economic-strategy-for-britain.html

TrickyTree83

Spiv wrote: »

Was out to dinner with 4 Remains friends who were almost hyperventilating with anger over Brexit - calling all the Leavers thick and uninformed - when I scratched the surface it was actually they who were thick and uninformed - that's why they find it so frightening.....They haven't followed the debate at all -all they've absorbed is "project fear"..... they have no clue to what actually is going on so they are bewildered....

Have to say this story was the same for me too.

Recently went on a stag and found so many opinions formed around what was said in the media rather than what was going on in the EU (5 presidents report, Eurozone instability, etc...). I got called a boring tw*t for having information on all of this rather than the standard "it's just the immigrants" argument they appear to think everyone who voted leave has.

Rinoa

Spiv wrote: »

Was out to dinner with 4 Remains friends who were almost hyperventilating with anger over Brexit - calling all the Leavers thick and uninformed - when I scratched the surface it was actually they who were thick and uninformed - that's why they find it so frightening.....They haven't followed the debate at all -all they've absorbed is "project fear"..... they have no clue to what actually is going on so they are bewildered....

Yes. The remainers believed every word of 'Project Fear'. Fortunately it's architect has now been sacked and the new chancellor has confirmed this morning there will be no emergency budget.

This is difficult news for the remainers to digest and no doubt their sulkathon will continue for some time.

wotsthat

Rinoa wrote: »

Yes. The remainers believed every word of 'Project Fear'. Fortunately it's architect has now been sacked and the new chancellor has confirmed this morning there will be no emergency budget.

This is difficult news for the remainers to digest and no doubt their sulkathon will continue for some time.

All the architects of leave and remain have lost their jobs. There's only Gove left and he can't be long before he's away.

Boris is resurrected as Court Jester but that's it.

If only leave had thought of outlining a statement of intent there would be some mandate as to where we go next instead of you sweating about what the Tories decided.

chucknorris

Rinoa wrote: »

Yes. The remainers believed every word of 'Project Fear'. Fortunately it's architect has now been sacked and the new chancellor has confirmed this morning there will be no emergency budget.

This is difficult news for the remainers to digest and no doubt their sulkathon will continue for some time.

I think you are generalising, I voted remain, but that doesn't mean that I believed all that was said (actually far from it, and from both sides). I still think that it wasn't the best way to go, but that said, we are in it now, and we have to make the best of it. Hopefully all the unknowns will turn out well, I do have contingency plans to cope if things don't turn out too well. It isn't all bad news as it looks as if we will have lower interest rates for a bit longer, and the markets seem to be responding positively. So all in all, I'm quite pleased at where we currently are.

Daniel54

wotsthat wrote: »

All the architects of leave and remain have lost their jobs. There's only Gove left and he can't be long before he's away.

Boris is resurrected as Court Jester but that's it.

If only leave had thought of outlining a statement of intent there would be some mandate as to where we go next instead of you sweating about what the Tories decided.

You were right - Gove will now be able spend more time with his family

Rinoa

wotsthat wrote: »

All the architects of leave and remain have lost their jobs. There's only Gove left and he can't be long before he's away.

Boris is resurrected as Court Jester but that's it.

If only leave had thought of outlining a statement of intent there would be some mandate as to where we go next instead of you sweating about what the Tories decided.

The destination is the important bit. We know where we want to end up but like all journeys there are several routes available. The direct route (single market access but no free movement) is the obvious choice but if for some reason that road is blocked there are several alternative routes available.

Leave couldn't issue a plan because they weren't in government. There's no rush. The new government will soon start outlining their plans. Markets are settling down, pound continues to inch up. The sunny uplands will soon be noticeable on the horizon.