If we vote for Brexit what happens

cells

Conrad wrote: »

Even if we abandoned the single market, so what. We could trade like the other sucessfull exporters into the EU, at the very worse with 4% tariffs, meaning we charge them on everything we import from the EU and thus fill our coffers at double the rate the EU does with the same tarif

People are so hysterical about all this, all will be well, most of the world is not in the sm

there must be some benefit to free trade or the worlds nations wouldn't go to all the trouble of trying to set up free trade agreements.

Also there are not that many 'other successful' nations once you exclude things that are 'luck' or not easily or at all repeatable eg like having huge oil/gas/ore deposits. Which non EU nation of similar size would be a model to aspire to?

baza52

Kohoutek wrote: »

I didn't say the UK wouldn't survive, I said the financial services sector would be decimated without passporting. That is accurate.

I'm sorry I'm not able to agree with your blind optimism.

something that's obvious to you means nothing until its becomes fact.
It was probably obvious to many that the remain voters would win.
Look what happened there :rotfl:

Kohoutek

Conrad wrote: »

Even if we abandoned the single market, so what. We could trade like the other sucessfull exporters into the EU, at the very worse with 4% tariffs, meaning we charge them on everything we import from the EU and thus fill our coffers at double the rate the EU does with the same tarif

People are so hysterical about all this, all will be well, most of the world is not in the sm

The reason that we need full access is because of services exports (extremely important to the UK economy). If we left the single market, we would not have a right of access for services, e.g. financial services.

Kohoutek

baza52 wrote: »

something that's obvious to you means nothing until its becomes fact.
It was probably obvious to many that the remain voters would win.
Look what happened there :rotfl:

Okay, well I'm comfortable with my position on passporting, as I have direct knowledge of the area. You can read about it in the news too - perhaps not in the Daily Express though.

cells

Conrad wrote: »

Even if we abandoned the single market, so what. We could trade like the other sucessfull exporters into the EU

I just had a wiki search of nations by GDP per capita if you ignore the EU nations and you ignore the natural resource rich nations (as we cant will oil fields or hydro geography into existence) you have in GDP order

USA (Not something we can copy as its a huge market in size and GDP and it is also a very large natural resource nation too)
Israle
Japan
South Korea

There are of course more nations but the GDP/Capita is already getting too low with South Korea at $27k/Capita to dig up further countries with even lower figures.


So which non EU countries are we going to be like?

baza52

Kohoutek wrote: »

I didn't say the UK wouldn't survive, I said the financial services sector would be decimated without passporting. That is accurate.

I'm sorry I'm not able to agree with your blind optimism.

so set up a subsidiary company in an EU country

Quote, "On the one hand, UK institutions, which are heavily reliant on the EU as the destination for UK exports of financial services, will be seeking to support and influence the UK Government in the important exit negotiations. On the other hand, these institutions will be seeking to implement their contingency plans to achieve continuity of access to the single market"

Crashy_Time

ukcarper wrote: »

This is why people should take no notice of Crashy it might seem like a joke but it's very close to the truth.

Crashy doesn't now what is going to happen to house prices just like me and everybody else. Prices could well fall over the next few years but to categorically state there is going to be a crash is stupid.

Basically the game is up, the general public know that house prices are falling, trying to control/shut down that narrative on internet forums is like telling a teenager about life before smartphones, pointless.

mrginge

Kohoutek wrote: »

They can only achieve that if that is in the interests of the 27 remaining member states and the EU.

Difficult to see how giving the UK that deal would be.

Well clearly it is in their interests. That's the whole point. !!!!!! some people just can do nothing except complain all day.

Moan moan moan, we won't get this, we'll lose this, they will have us over a barrel....

God it is so boring now.

System

If you find it boring you could just not read and post about it.

I tried it with trainspotting. I spent years on their forum telling them I was bored with trainspotting and how boring trains were. Then I had a lightbulb moment and stopped.

Jason74

mrginge wrote: »

Well clearly it is in their interests. That's the whole point. !!!!!! some people just can do nothing except complain all day.

Moan moan moan, we won't get this, we'll lose this, they will have us over a barrel....

God it is so boring now.

The truth often is.