If we vote for Brexit what happens

michaels

BobQ wrote: »

Of course they should be allowed to stay and of course we should announce it now as Government Policy. It is the right thing to do, at least for anyone here before we serve Article 50. The fact is that if they all returned home we would have to allow more immigration from outside the EU.

As Neil Kinnock once said "You cannot play politics with people's lives".

We really need to divorce working here from UK citizenship. I agree that 5 + years should enable someone to apply for UK citizenship but not that it should be automatic.

Funnily enough no one in the brexit camp is saying anything different, it is only the tory remainers who are it would seem deliberately causing a problem, it is almost as if they want sabotage things to be in a position to say I told you so.

Personally I am not sure if the chancellor and carney's post brexit pronouncements may not fall into the same category.

ukcarper

Crashy_Time wrote: »

No, I realised there was something very wrong when first reading the housepricecrash.co.uk site around 2007/8, not 20 years ago. I did howecver predict the win for Leave, and many of the predictions made on that website are also starting to become reality.

Thats not what you have said in the past and what have they done since 2007. You have no more idea what is going to happen than me and your nonsense is OK on discussion forum where this thread should be, but not here.

CLAPTON

BobQ wrote: »

Is there anyone in this world that you do not feel the need to to be nasty about?

I often find people who personally do well financially from something, tend to find moral reasons why that thing is 'good' for us all.

Noting the Kinnock dynasty has done very well financially out of the EU and that they are very pro-EU is perfectly proper : no different from saying a banker is in favour of banks.

YOU chose to apply the Kinnock phrase to the EU situation which you now seem to regret.

StevieJ

Sterling takes another hit

TrickyTree83

michaels wrote: »

You know what? I think they should be allowed to stay whatever the EU bullies threaten - one of the things I think make the British culturally different is that we do the right thing because it is the right thing.

Perhaps as a compromise we could offer 5 years under their current status with the automatic right to naturalise if they wish to stay after that.

You and I appear to agree on quite a few things but I'll disagree that we ought to come out unilaterally and say EU migrants can stay before we secure the rights of UK citizens within the EU.

To me that's just sensible posturing prior to official negotiations on matters like this.

Ultimately I think we'll end up with EU migrants being allowed to stay and UK citizens allowed to stay in the EU and that this ought to be the goal since EU migrants do contribute and I never personally had a problem with the freedom of movement.

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You and I appear to agree on quite a few things but I'll disagree that we ought to come out unilaterally and say EU migrants can stay before we secure the rights of UK citizens within the EU.

Good thinking; they might come in handy as a human shield.

padington

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You and I appear to agree on quite a few things but I'll disagree that we ought to come out unilaterally and say EU migrants can stay before we secure the rights of UK citizens within the EU.

To me that's just sensible posturing prior to official negotiations on matters like this.

Ultimately I think we'll end up with EU migrants being allowed to stay and UK citizens allowed to stay in the EU and that this ought to be the goal since EU migrants do contribute and I never personally had a problem with the freedom of movement.

We will provide an immigration amnesty for sure. We will no doubt continue to encourage high immigration outside the EU in other ways also.

Importing wage deflation will be high on Theresa Mays agenda. Otherwise we will have to slash the pound further or make more cuts to services if we want any chance to not increase national debt at rates that would upset investors.

hanb

Still doesn't seem to be a change in Bristol (within my search criteria).. still the same volume of houses coming on Rightmove, at the prices they have been in recent months and only the 1 relisting from the weekend before last. Seems location dependent but judging by the amount of people viewing just the same houses as us, I can't see there being too much change here! Time will tell I guess

Conrad

StevieJ wrote: »

Sterling takes another hit

The IMF told us the Pound was over valued and should drop by up to 18% to keep us competitive, prior to the referendum

The dollar is on steroids and many are worried about it

Lots of reports of British export orders going up

We eat too much and over consume anyway, so if imports prices rise a bit, lets consume a little less

I read in the FT that there is massive glut of goods over production, mainly from China that is about to hit the EU very hard indeed

StevieJ

Conrad wrote: »

The IMF told us the Pound was over valued and should drop by up to 18% to keep us competitive, prior to the referendum

The dollar is on steroids and many are worried about it

Lots of reports of British export orders going up

We eat too much and over consume anyway, so if imports prices rise a bit, lets consume a little less

I read in the FT that there is massive glut of goods over production, mainly from China that is about to hit the EU very hard indeed

Something tells me that many pensioners on fixed incomes are soon going to regret falling for the lies perpetrated by the leave campaign.