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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Abstaining is a vote for Tynnary. Anyone who did not voted actually voted for....nothing.

    The result is the result.
    We are where we are.
    Democracy is NOT let's vote until we get the result we want.
    I voted STAY.
    Now let's move on. Let's get out of the EU ASAP

    No need to. We can reverse it possibly. The repercussions are huge, especially for the next generation so why shouldn't we try? Apparently the Germans have started thinking this way.
  • BobQ
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    mwpt wrote: »
    Seriously what? You really expect a prime minister who always planned to resign if the result was leave to spend his time formulating a plan that he would have no part of? That should have and probably has been done by some of the senior leave campaigners. My guess is they'll be pushing for a Norwegian type deal where we remain almost as we are now but pacify the leave voters who were concerned about "control".

    But then again, I was wrong about the result of the referendum. Maybe they really are going to go "full Nigel".

    Of course there is a plan, it is the job of the civil service to prepare alternative plans for their Ministers. Whitehall has probably been doing this without consulting Ministers as they knew what a mess would follow a Brexit vote.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Moby
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    edited 26 June 2016 at 2:53PM
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    Words of our future PM a few months ago! There is no plan and where is George Osborne, our Chancellor?
  • ash28
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    Seriously ? :eek:

    Seriously? The government should have had a plan for an exit vote, it's the government who have to invoke Article 50 not the Brexit campaigners and the government should have made preparations in the event of that being necessary. The fact they haven't seems to be complete incompetence.

    Were the government so convinced of the result they felt that planning for a possible Brexit wasn't necessary? They spent enough tax payer's money promoting Remain perhaps they should have spent some on forward planning...just in case.
  • ash28
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Of course there is a plan, it is the job of the civil service to prepare alternative plans for their Ministers. Whitehall has probably been doing this without consulting Ministers as they knew what a mess would follow a Brexit vote.

    I hope you're right, it just seems chaotic at the moment.
  • Optimist
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    Yolina wrote: »
    You seem surprised? It's fairly obvious that no-one has a plan, otherwise Article 50 would have been invoked sharpish. As is it they're all stalling while trying to vaguely come up with something.

    Given some of the comments I read from some of the arrogant sods currently in charge of the EU the UK would be pretty dumb to invoke Article 50 "sharpish" all that would achieve would allow the EU powers that be to be completly negative for two years then we are out.

    An agreement in principle before invoking Article 50 would be the best option for the UK.

    Just a thought....
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • gfplux
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you meant Accept?

    The election wasnt legally binding. If you were really paying attention you would know that?

    Thanks have corrected my spelling.

    You are obviously in the camp that Democracy is a movable feast.
    Or a bloke in the pub told me.
    Or Boris always tells me the truth.

    The question I was asked and voted on was do I want to stay or leave the EU. I did not vote for a debate.

    I have difficulty understanding your position.

    The people have spoken. We have the result, so let's leave the EU.
    I voted to reman. I am VERY unhappy about the result.
    Britain is a Democracy. We don't live in a society where Ballot boxes are stolen or stuffed. We don't have para military outside our poling stations.
    No one came to my home and threatened me the day before I voted.

    You seem to want us to have a new type of Democracy getting on that slippery slope towards the knock on the door the day before poling.

    Read your history.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • prowla
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    mrginge wrote: »
    If only governments of the last twenty years had listened the electorate instead of lecturing, patronising and lying to them...
    Yep - the Government's true colours were shown in all their splendour during the Remain campaign; using public money to pay for a propaganda leaflet and then resorting to all kinds of scaremongering and FUD.

    Of course, the seeds were sown when Cameron came back in January/February with nothing, having been faced down by a belligerent and arrogant EU collective.

    Put the two together and we have an untrustworthy government which is incapable of standing up for us.

    Hardly surprising what the outcome was.
  • gfplux
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    michaels wrote: »
    Now we have voted to leave I think we should immediately open up immigration to any countries where our minimum wage would not be a draw (subject to immigrants would not qualify for any state services for 5 years), for example Canada, Japan, The Netherlands, and suggest that they reciprocate if they want to.

    We could also institute something similar for anyone who wanted to work in the NHS as a doctor or nurse wherever they came from subect to qualifications including english, perhaps limiting rights to bring in family members for the first 5 years.

    Then after 5 years people could have the right to naturalize.

    Both these rules would also apply to EU nations of course.

    WE could set some rules on a by country basis for annual net migration if figures looked too large.

    Great idea, BUT, who would come if the rules might change 12 months later.
    Uncertainty is the new British black hole.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
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