If we vote for Brexit what happens

mrginge

ruggedtoast wrote: »

A big problem for the leave side however is that is has failed to frame any credible predictions as to what will take the place of the EU when / if we leave.

Have the remain side told you what will happen if we stay?

Do you believe everything will just stay as they are now if we remain?

michaels

mayonnaise wrote: »

Looks like the registration deadline was/will be extended.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36476176

So we can be pretty certain that it is mostly potential stay voters who were impacted, if you are expecting those undecideds to break for remain then you had better make sure that they have a vote.

mrginge

michaels wrote: »

So we can be pretty certain that it is mostly potential stay voters who were impacted, if you are expecting those undecideds to break for remain then you had better make sure that they have a vote.

How very cynical.


If true though we can also infer that they are so bad at organising their lives that they will all turn up to vote at 3am on the 24th.

ruggedtoast

Generali wrote: »

It's probably worth remembering that the capitalist system you hate so much has made the poor very much richer in both relative and absolute terms and extended lifespans by decades.

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Human scientific progress is responsible for the increase in (some people's) standard of living.

It is debatable how much neoliberal capitalism, its baked in inequality and unsustainable dependence on exponentially growing debt, is helping or hindering this now.

TrickyTree83

It's absolutely right that they extend the period where they allow people to register to vote given the system used to do it was unavailable.

I don't think it sways either way, leave or remain, it's just common sense to me. Some well paid civil servant IT manager ought to be getting a rocket up their bum this morning.

kabayiri

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

...
I don't think it sways either way, leave or remain, it's just common sense to me. Some well paid civil servant IT manager ought to be getting a rocket up their bum this morning.

It doesn't work like that. The IT supplier is outsourced to create chains of command to deflect blame :

- the client blames the supplier
- the supplier blames the client for inadequate specification of capacity
- the government blames everyone!

IT geeks are remarkably indiscrete...I suspect the truth will out when the dust settles.

Besides, did you know all configuration changes for gateway routers have to go via the EU?

TrickyTree83

kabayiri wrote: »

It doesn't work like that. The IT supplier is outsourced to create chains of command to deflect blame :

- the client blames the supplier
- the supplier blames the client for inadequate specification of capacity
- the government blames everyone!

IT geeks are remarkably indiscrete...I suspect the truth will out when the dust settles.

Besides, did you know all configuration changes for gateway routers have to go via the EU?

That's what I was getting at without getting into the nuances of outsourcing. There will be someone ultimately responsible for not making sure the service could cope on the side of the government, and possibly the supplier.

I didn't have any idea about the gateway routers being controlled by the EU, what possible reason is there for that? Is this not a UK government service?

kabayiri

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

...
I didn't have any idea about the gateway routers being controlled by the EU, what possible reason is there for that? Is this not a UK government service?

Oops. It's me not being able to deliver jokey comments very well.

We seem to be able to the EU for everything else, I see no reason not to blame them for this!

kabayiri

michaels wrote: »

So we can be pretty certain that it is mostly potential stay voters who were impacted, if you are expecting those undecideds to break for remain then you had better make sure that they have a vote.

I hear that the *real* reason was that there were only 5 people queued up to access the registration site last night and not 50,000 (and 3 of those had run out of money at the student bar so came home early).

Embarassing situation? Fear not. Pull the plug on the appliance and then tell everyone who will listen it was because of SOOO MUCH DEMAND.

Dont you just love viral marketing?

Everyone not yet registered will be saying "yeah, I had that problem, like, yeah. Nooo, I'm not a lazy 4rsed couldn't be bothered type".

Shakethedisease

michaels wrote: »

So we can be pretty certain that it is mostly potential stay voters who were impacted, if you are expecting those undecideds to break for remain then you had better make sure that they have a vote.

So it seems.

Ben Riley-Smith ‏@benrileysmith 6h6 hours ago Huge boost to In camp if voter registration reopens. 740k people under 35 signed up in last week. Just 40k aged over 65.

However

Philip Cowley ‏@philipjcowley Jun 6 For the next two days, I will mostly be tweeting this... From The British General Election of 2015