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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Conrad
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    Beer Production Market Research Report | SIC C11.050 | Feb 2017
    Trouble brewing: Industry revenue will decline as the popularity of lager continues to drop.





    Drinkers have tired of generic-tasting lagers and begun to look for quality and variety over quantity in their alcoholic beverage choices. The closure of thousands of pubs, which offer producers better profit margins, has also contributed to the industry's relatively flat performance. A recent shift in taste back towards beer, largely due to the booming craft beer segment, has meant industry revenue is estimated to rise

  • Conrad
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-heineken-beers-brexit-price-row-amstel-sol-tiger-kingfisher-scrap-supermarket-a7644026.html


    Tesco scraps Heineken Beers.


    Usual Indy rabble-rousers imply this is evidence Brexit is bad.


    However..........UK quality beers are enjoying goot times




    https://www.ibisworld.co.uk/market-research/beer-production.html


    Drinkers have tired of generic-tasting lagers and begun to look for quality and variety over quantity in their alcoholic beverage choices.
    A recent shift in taste back towards beer, largely due to the booming craft beer segment, has meant industry revenue is estimated to rise
    Beer Production Market Research Report | SIC C11.050 | Feb 2017
    Trouble brewing: Industry revenue will decline as the popularity of lager continues to drop.





    Drinkers have tired of generic-tasting lagers and begun to look for quality and variety over quantity in their alcoholic beverage choices. The closure of thousands of pubs, which offer producers better profit margins, has also contributed to the industry's relatively flat performance. A recent shift in taste back towards beer, largely due to the booming craft beer segment, has meant industry revenue is estimated to rise

  • Moby
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    Nothing new then .....just the same old wishful thinking that it'll be ok on the night. We live in a very uncertain world and imo Brexit leave us exposed to risks that far outweigh the anticipated gains...................too many people on here have a Harry Potter view of the world.....but we'll see!
  • CKhalvashi
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    Moby wrote: »
    Nothing new then .....just the same old wishful thinking that it'll be ok on the night. We live in a very uncertain world and imo Brexit leave us exposed to risks that far outweigh the anticipated gains...................too many people on here have a Harry Potter view of the world.....but we'll see!

    I've said this several times and been told not to worry, so good luck drumming that in!
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  • StevieJ
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    Are the BBC taking note of the MP's complaint re: bias?
    Because a report today questions how beneficial the EU's single market really is.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39356664


    All in a days reporting from the worlds most trusted media organisation.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
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    More even handed reporting on Brexit from the BBC.
    Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
    What about the economy, so far?
    David Cameron, his Chancellor George Osborne and many other senior figures who wanted to stay in the EU predicted an immediate economic crisis if the UK voted to leave. House prices would fall, there would be a recession with a big rise in unemployment - and an emergency Budget would be needed to bring in the large cuts in spending that would be needed.
    The pound did slump the day after the referendum - and remains around 15% lower against the dollar and 10% down against the euro - but the predictions of immediate doom have not proved accurate with the UK economy estimated to have grown 1.8% in 2016, second only to Germany's 1.9% among the world's G7 leading industrialised nations.
    Inflation has been inching higher - to 1.8% in January - its highest rate for two and a half years, but unemployment has continued to fall, to stand at an 11 year low of 4.8%. Annual house price increases have fallen from 9.4% in June but were still at an inflation-busting 7.4% in December, according to official ONS figures.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • setmefree2
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    edited 23 March 2017 at 2:46PM
    Moby wrote: »
    too many people on here have a Harry Potter view of the world.....but we'll see!

    "A Harry Potter view of the world" - what is that? I used google and came back with nothing???? If I'm being insulted I like to understand exactly what you are saying....
  • StevieJ
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    "A Harry Potter view of the world" - what is that? I used google and came back with nothing????

    I guess they meant fantasy?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Conrad
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    edited 23 March 2017 at 2:53PM
    Moby wrote: »




    We live in a very uncertain world and imo Brexit leave us exposed to risks that far outweigh the anticipated gains





    For as long as Humankind has walked this Earth, some always say tomorrow looks worse than yesterday.


    In 1973 you would have said the same - cold war, OPEC crisis, power cuts, Iran-Iraq, Israel, recessions, strikes, famine (many leading thinkers predicted global famine - see 'The Population Bomb')




    I could transport you to any time and you would still say now is not the time for taking risks / change


    Naysayers ALWAYS say the risks outweigh the gains, surely you know this from reading history? Why does this wealth of experience not temper your anxieties?


    Lots of surveys after WW2 for example revealed people were frightened of the future, little did they know that was the dawning of a golden era.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 23 March 2017 at 2:58PM
    Barnier
    “This scenario of a non-agreement, a no deal, is not ours,” he said, in the speech, alternating between French and English. “We want an agreement. We want to succeed. Success not against the British, but with them.”
    http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-brexit-negotiator-warns-of-dire-scenario-for-uk-if-talks-fail/
    EU Officials Warn of Risk of U.K. Leaving Brexit Talks Early, Sources Say
    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-22/eu-officials-said-to-warn-of-risk-u-k-leaves-brexit-talks-early
    The former French Prime Minister does not expect a full agreement given the short period of time. However, Barnie said that the EU was entering the negotiations to reach an agreement and that he regards a “no deal” scenario as “exceptional.”

    https://www.neweurope.eu/article/barnier-outlines-three-key-stages-brexit-negotiations/
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