If we vote for Brexit what happens

gfplux

wotsthat wrote: »

Get a grip kid.

The right thing to do (IMO of course) was for the UK and EU to guarantee the rights of citizens. Why on Earth do two parties need to negotiate with each other to do the right thing? How does that work - I'll do the right thing but only if you do?

It's regretful they didn't so ex-pats can join the long queue of other people who don't have a scooby doo how their lives are going to be affected.

Nearly 7 months on from the vote this expat is happy to wait. No negotiation before triggering Article 50 sounds good to me.

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

Can you imagine tasking an employee with a highly complex task and leaving them to deal with it as they saw fit to a deadline they decided?

No i can't.

I can imagine asking a team of people to go off and investigate a project, analyse the problem, determine resource requirements, come up with a strategy, a timescale and contingencies. And I would like them to report back to me on their proposal by X date.

It's not micro-management to want to be kept up to date with process and timescales.

It is if you've asked them to go and do something and all you want to do is stick your neb in every five minutes so you can complain that they're not doing it the way you wanted.
Still, I guess in an age where we devolve power and responsibility there's still a few 1970s dinosaurs out there.

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

"Spam" button time

gfplux

My point....now over 6 months on from the referendum a very large majority of EU citizens affected by Britain leaving the EU have come to terms with the situation and have taken whatever decision is best for them.
I have recognised that I have to look after my own. Others have done the same.
If you wish to keep on posting about this please feel free to use up your energy and do so.
We are (thankfully) only +\- 11 weeks away from Britain triggering A50. The time will pass quickly. Then Britain and the EU can get on with the job of Britains speedy exit.

mayonnaise

gfplux wrote: »

Nearly 7 months on from the vote this expat is happy to wait. No negotiation before triggering Article 50 sounds good to me.

gfplux wrote: »

Nearly 7 months on from the vote this expat is happy to wait. No negotiation before triggering Article 50 sounds good to me.

gfplux wrote: »

Nearly 7 months on from the vote this expat is happy to wait. No negotiation before triggering Article 50 sounds good to me.

gfplux caught the clapton bug.

Conrad

What about this for a theory I've come up with;


The reason Mrs May gave a fairly clear intention to leave the SM on Sunday but then seemed to go back on this on Monday was as a means to unsettle the European stock markets, namely the CAC and DAX, and indeed they went quite low yesterday but recovered after she was more positive about SM membership.


Like warning shots across EU bows

Herzlos

How about the more likely:

May gave a fairly clear intention to leave the SM on Sunday, and then backtracked after all of the fallout she received, because she still has no idea what she's actually going to do.

Do you think she'd really try and mess with the UK markets in order to send a warning to the EU?

Do you think it's coincidence that the £ seems to fall every time she opens her mouth?

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

How about the more likely:

May gave a fairly clear intention to leave the SM on Sunday, and then backtracked after all of the fallout she received, because she still has no idea what she's actually going to do.

Do you think she'd really try and mess with the UK markets in order to send a warning to the EU?

Do you think it's coincidence that the £ seems to fall every time she opens her mouth?

That kind of is the point Conrad was making.

In that if the £ falls every time she opens her mouth as you say, and also the European markets tumble when she suggests that there would be no single market access it should give an indication to all that business (and therefore jobs) demand that trade continue as it is currently on the continent as much as here in the UK. If TM and the UK government stick firmly to the cessation of FoM that puts the EU in a quandary.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

Do you think it's coincidence that the £ seems to fall every time she opens her mouth?

The markets react this way as they think Britain will follow measures to keep us super competitive through Brexit such as lowering interest rates (as happened just after the vote), printing money (ditto) and other measures likely to lead keeping the currency competitive to aid our exports (during a time when they may face tariffs)


You do realise that every time the currency falls, so do our debt obligations right?

Conrad

BTW to those saying there's been too much delay, and plenty of time to assemble a plan (I too feel impatient), it is worth keeping in mind all the different corporations, interests, trade bodies, unions, Union nations and the rest that have had to be consulted and re-consulted, this all takes time.