If we vote for Brexit what happens

gfplux

Were the £1000 leather trousers (Theresa Mays) made in England from English leather.
Proper Nations! Please Tromking, who is Britains Foreign Secretary Boris who!

gfplux

Tromking wrote: »

I think gfplux knows that proper nations like the UK generally do things properly. Living in Eurozone central as he does he also realises that the narrative that the UK is not just leaving the EU but somehow going 'rogue' has to be propagated with vigour. The stakes are high for nothing countries like Luxembourg who's future is so reliant on the continued existence of the EU as is.

Exactly right Tromking, Luxembourg as a founding member of the EU has a lot at stake. A small country of +/- 500000 has managed to do rather well thank you.
It's a shame that Britain with well over 60,000,000 people has missed its opportunity during its 40 plus years of membership.
You are so right, living as I do in "Eurozone Central" I have had to watch Britain miss opportunity after opportunity to take a central role in Europe.
However that is all water under the bridge. Now Britain has a new opportunity. Given its track record I am some what dubious that it can or knows how to grasp that opportunity.
Please remember as Britain is launched in to this unknown known of unknown we British nationals left to our own devices do wish you luck.

TrickyTree83

gfplux wrote: »

Were the £1000 leather trousers (Theresa Mays) made in England from English leather.

Does it matter?

Or are you just slinging mud?

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

Exactly right Tromking, Luxembourg as a founding member of the EU has a lot at stake. A small country of +/- 500000 has managed to do rather well thank you.

yes Luxembourg receives huge handouts from the other people of the EU:
plus it had the sleasy company tax policies of Juncher now being outlawed.

It's a shame that Britain with well over 60,000,000 people has missed its opportunity during its 40 plus years of membership.
You are so right, living as I do in "Eurozone Central" I have had to watch Britain miss opportunity after opportunity to take a central role in Europe.

There was no chance that the UK could receive the huge handout (per capita) that were given to Luxembourg. Indeeed we have always been a net contributor.

However out of interest, what exactly were the missed opportunities that would have made the people of the UK richer? Are you lamenting we didn't join the euro disaster?

Please remember as Britain is launched in to this unknown known of unknown we British nationals left to our own devices do wish you luck.

in what way are UK nationals being left to their own devices?

the 'unknown, unknown' are known to most of the other 160 countries in the world

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Were the £1000 leather trousers (Theresa Mays) made in England from English leather.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Does it matter?

Or are you just slinging mud?

Perhaps gfplux is suggesting that Corbyn only buys all-British CND Vegan clothing?
Or that May's predecessor Cameron with his £3,500 Savile Row suit made by Richard James (as worn at the party conference in 2009 when appealing for austerity) is somehow fine but a £1k pair of trousers is not?

I'm looking forward to an answer to this from gfplux.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

Exactly right Tromking, Luxembourg as a founding member of the EU has a lot at stake. A small country of +/- 500000 has managed to do rather well thank you.
It's a shame that Britain with well over 60,000,000 people has missed its opportunity during its 40 plus years of membership.
You are so right, living as I do in "Eurozone Central" I have had to watch Britain miss opportunity after opportunity to take a central role in Europe.
However that is all water under the bridge. Now Britain has a new opportunity. Given its track record I am some what dubious that it can or knows how to grasp that opportunity.
Please remember as Britain is launched in to this unknown known of unknown we British nationals left to our own devices do wish you luck.

I'm not sure a central role was ever up for grabs gfplux. Brits are just too independent of spirit to be part of a vehicle where France and Germany dominate. If any country can make a success of Brexit then it's the UK IMO, you'll be aware of the UK's "track record" on foreign inward investment of course. I have a feeling though that it's mainland Europe that's going to need the luck going forward, just remember though that as a British national there is a handy bolt hole just off the coast where you'll always be made welcome.

AFF8879

Tromking wrote: »

I'm not sure a central role was ever up for grabs gfplux. Brits are just too independent of spirit to be part of a vehicle where France and Germany dominate. If any country can make a success of Brexit then it's the UK IMO, you'll be aware of the UK's "track record" on foreign inward investment of course. I have a feeling though that it's mainland Europe that's going to need the luck going forward, just remember though that as a British national there is a handy bolt hole just off the coast where you'll always be made welcome.

Whilst I agree with your sentiment I've always found the French to be fiercely patriotic and defensive of their culture, language and traditions, moreso than the UK- so I've found it odd that UK always had the reputation of being the whiny child of the EU as opposed to them!

Personally I think the single currency is what has killed the eurozone, being able to value/devalue your currency is an extremely important monetary tool. E.g take Italy - with the disastrous state of their economy, if they still had the Lira the market would devalue it accordingly - allowing an influx of cheap(er) foreign investment/rescue packages, i.e economic issues would be priced in accordingly. Nigel Farage has actually given some good speeches about this- for all the media portrayal of him being racist, bigoted etc I've always found him to be very articulate with a deep knowledge of current affairs (and I say this as a young, centre-left remain supporter).

Conrad

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I love it when leading lights of campaigns make total twits of themselves on Twitter waxing lyrical without thinking things through.

This one was hastily deleted.

Crack on and go independant if you wish, no one is stopping you. You have all the facts on your side as you always say, in which case victory is assured.

ruggedtoast

Tromking wrote: »

I'm not sure a central role was ever up for grabs gfplux. Brits are just too independent of spirit to be part of a vehicle where France and Germany dominate. If any country can make a success of Brexit then it's the UK IMO, you'll be aware of the UK's "track record" on foreign inward investment of course. I have a feeling though that it's mainland Europe that's going to need the luck going forward, just remember though that as a British national there is a handy bolt hole just off the coast where you'll always be made welcome.

Yes. Brexiteers are just so welcoming.

That's the abiding thing I get from UKIP voters. Just this transcendent sense of welcome and generosity...

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Exactly right Tromking, Luxembourg as a founding member of the EU has a lot at stake. A small country of +/- 500000 has managed to do rather well thank you.

Being a landlocked country with 2 of it's 3 neighbours being France and Germany. Seems to have abused it's position simply to gain advantage by offering sweet tax deals. Otherwise has made no actual meaningful contribution to the EU as a whole. Self interest rules.