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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    I don't condone that either, but I don't see any of that being incited in a national newspaper, am I wrong?

    so you would be particualry heavy against national newspapers

    what do you think : imprisonment or simply massive fines to send them out of business?

    I can see why you think that many educated people might be wanting to leave the UK to find a more liberal environment.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    UK hirings pick up pace in October despite Brexit shock - REC
    British companies hired permanent staff at the fastest pace in eight months in October as the country's labour market kept on growing despite the decision in June by voters to leave the European Union, a survey showed on Tuesday.
    The Recruitment and Employment Confederation (REC) also said pay for permanent hires rose at the fastest pace in five months in October. Placements and pay for temporary staff also picked up although at a slower pace, it said.
    "Despite ongoing uncertainty the UK jobs market is thriving again in most areas of the UK," REC Chief Executive Kevin Green said in a statement.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-hiring-idUKKBN13300I
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Retail sales soar as shoppers ignore Brexit jitters

    Figure for October is 2.4% per cent higher than year before, despite falling prices
    Retail sales grew at their fastest rate since January, according to the latest figures from the British Retail Consortium.
    The trade body reported that the total value of sales was 2.4 per cent higher in October this year than in 2015. Online purchases rose 11.1 per cent while in-store sales fell 1.5 per cent.
    The increase in the value sold comes despite falling prices — an index compiled by the BRC found that shop prices fell 1.7 per cent in the month because of fierce competition between supermarkets.

    https://www.ft.com/content/ad6db4c2-a4fe-11e6-8b69-02899e8bd9d1
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »


    'an index compiled by the BRC found that shop prices fell 1.7 per cent in the month because of fierce competition between supermarkets'.







    Oh dear.......


    I will post this in Discussion Time on here if that's ok
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,003 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so you would be particualry heavy against national newspapers

    I'd expect them to hold themselves to a higher standard than some bloke posting on a message board. No?
    what do you think : imprisonment or simply massive fines to send them out of business?.

    I'd be all for them having to issue corrections/retractions on the same page and font as the incorrect article, as well as some penalty for breaching a professional ethics agreement.

    I know you're trying to frame it as me wanting to shut down the press I don't like, but I just want the press to assume some basic responsibility for the deliberately rabble rousing lines they run with to cause outrage in order to generate sales.
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    James O'Brien most hated man in Britain? This place is getting more and more bonkers :D

    I thought he was talking about Farage :beer:
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    edited 8 November 2016 at 12:25PM
    Conrad wrote: »
    Oh dear.......


    I will post this in Discussion Time on here if that's ok

    FWIW both M & S and ABF ( Primark) have said they won't be passing price rises on to customers.

    Links
    British retailer Marks & Spencer (MKS.L) does not plan to raise its prices on clothing and other goods to compensate for the fall in the pound caused by the Brexit vote, its chief executive said on Tuesday.
    "We've obviously got currency pressures that have come onto us recently but we intend to mitigate those through better sourcing, by better volumes with our manufacturers and our intention is that we won't have to pass those price rises onto the consumer in the New Year," Steve Rowe told BBC radio.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-marks-spencer-strategy-currency-idUKKBN1330M5

    ABF's CEO also said this
    "With this devaluation of sterling, food manufacturing in the UK for export or for import substitution looks really quite exciting," he said.
    This is quite revealing
    In a vote of confidence in the British economy after the Brexit vote, Weston said Primark would open most new store space in the next two years in the UK, including a big extension to its store on London's busy Oxford Street.

    Weston said the British government was in contact with the company to discuss potential threats and opportunities from Brexit, including asking how many workers from the EU it employs and discussing the impact of getting goods through customs.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-abf-outlook-idUKKBN1330RR?il=0
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    James O'Brien has been claiming he's one of few journalists giving people the truth and warning everyone of impending doom and price rises. No doubt he will filter out todays FACTS on price FALLS and the economy once more showing rude health.


    Inability to cope with evidence
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »




    "With this devaluation of sterling, food manufacturing in the UK for export or for import substitution looks really quite exciting,"





    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-abf-outlook-idUKKBN1330RR?il=0





    Cells argued with me for days that I was mad to say this was a great opportunity for UK food producers. 'Goat milking Tigers'.
  • Herzlos
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Cells argued with me for days that I was mad to say this was a great opportunity for UK food producers. 'Goat milking Tigers'.

    Because you continue to deliberately miss the point.

    It's good for exporters, we know that, it's undeniable.

    But what it'll do is drive up the prices locally, which is bad for everyone else, particularly those that are already struggling.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Because you continue to deliberately miss the point.

    It's good for exporters, we know that, it's undeniable.

    But what it'll do is drive up the prices locally, which is bad for everyone else, particularly those that are already struggling.


    Prices have fallen in spite of remainers relentless assurances they were rising fast.


    Also you keep putting a temporary small potential price rise as somehow more compelling that rebalancing our economic trade deficit which is fuelled by borrowing instead of real productive enterprise.


    Economic rebalancing is hugely more important for all of us than a historically normal inflation level.
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