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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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CKhalvashi wrote: »
That's where my big issue stands.
I'm not asking for a full Brexit to be postponed indefinitely, I am, however, asking for long enough to get myself out of the country and set up elsewhere if that is what will be the requirement, without fear of being sent packing once it's gone through.
The above, of course, doesn't require halting a process at all in reality, just ensuring that the rights I currently hold as an EU citizen (and have held for the majority of my life) are upheld until a certain date.
The 'EU citizen' and any incumbent rights you feel they have, does not exist. As part of a treaty arrangement a group of sovereign states decided to allow the free movement of peoples within an economic area that's all. Brexit I would suggest is an exercise in distancing the UK from the end game where an EU citizen is actually a real thing. So, that being said you're probably twenty years too early to be using "I'm a EU citizen, I have rights" shtick.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
As CLAPTON might say that is democracy. But as you say, those of us who travel to many different countries do not think our decision is very sensible. In my experience they think we are at best mad and at worst racist/xenophobic. Of course it is our right to have stumbled into this position and we can celebrate it as a triumph for democracy rather that just a result of it.
Right now we have a democracy that allows 100% us to vote and a sizable minority of them that arrogantly believe the 48% should have no say in what happens next.
Meanwhile the world wonders what we are up to.
The vote was an advisory referendum. We must have another one to decide what type of Brext we as a nation chose. The differences are immense.Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.0 -
As CLAPTON might say that is democracy. But as you say, those of us who travel to many different countries do not think our decision is very sensible.
In my experience they think we are at best mad and at worst racist/xenophobic.
Almost beyond believe that you don't see the xenophobia of the EU : specifically and deliberately discriminating both by way of trade and immigration laws between 28 mainly white, christian european countries and everyone else:
The ignorance and hypocrity is breathtaking.Of course it is our right to have stumbled into this position and we can celebrate it as a triumph for democracy rather that just a result of it.
Right now we have a democracy that allows 100% us to vote and a sizable minority of them that arrogantly believe the 48% should have no say in what happens next.
Meanwhile the world wonders what we are up to.
Complete nonsense : I don't know a single 'leaver' who believes remainers should have no say : indeed we have a remainers filled house of both commons and lords.
Simple paranoia.0 -
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The vote was an advisory referendum. We must have another one to decide what type of Brext we as a nation chose. The differences are immense.
If Remain had won, given all three parties were for remain as was over 80% of Parliament, that would have been it, not a chance of a further referendum offered.
Also why weren't you campaigning for us all to have a say when Major and Blair took us much further in, giving away our rights? I don't recall Europhiles arguing we must have a vote on the type of IN0 -
If Remain had won, given all three parties were for remain as was over 80% of Parliament, that would have been it, not a chance of a further referendum offered.
Also why weren't you campaigning for us all to have a say when Major and Blair took us much further in, giving away our rights? I don't recall Europhiles arguing we must have a vote on the type of IN
What rights precisely do you think you have lost?0 -
Almost beyond believe that you don't see the xenophobia of the EU : specifically and deliberately discriminating both by way of trade and immigration laws between 28 mainly white, christian european countries and everyone else:
The ignorance and hypocrity is breathtaking.
Complete nonsense : I don't know a single 'leaver' who believes remainers should have no say : indeed we have a remainers filled house of both commons and lords.
Simple paranoia.
The ignorance and 'hypocrity' certainly is breathtaking.
Germany is currently processing almost half a million non EU asylum applications. The UK, 10℅ of that. About the same number as Belgium.
And UKIP's ignominious footsoldiers have the temerity to suggest that their unpleasant right wing party wants to do anything other than slam the door further.
Meanwhile British descendants of Jewish refugees are scrambling to apply for German citizenship.
Well they would be. They know the signs all too well.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »
Germany is currently processing almost half a million non EU asylum applications. The UK, 10℅ of that. About the same number as Belgium.
Germany is also contemplating an arrangement where thousands of CKhalvashi's fellow ' EU citizens' will be precluded from claiming German unemployment benefits for 5 years.
Any fleeing member of the British Jewish community better have a job on arrival in Germany I would suggest. That said plenty of Parisian Jews escaping wantonly anti-Semitic France are finding the U.K. a more welcoming alternative it is said.
Funny old place Europe.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
Germany is also contemplating an arrangement where thousands of CKhalvashi's fellow ' EU citizens' will be precluded from claiming German unemployment benefits for 5 years.
That's fine.
It's legal to discriminate on residency, but not on nationality. The two aren't the same thing.
The Germans aren't doing anything wrong here, unlike the British government in trying to negotiate trade deals while an EU member.💙💛 💔0 -
CKhalvashi wrote: »That's fine.
It's legal to discriminate on residency, but not on nationality. The two aren't the same thing.
The Germans aren't doing anything wrong here, unlike the British government in trying to negotiate trade deals while an EU member.
Who's suggesting that it's illegal?“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0
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